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Dairyxox
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  #2313790 9-Sep-2019 18:56
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How full is it? If they’re full all the time then they perform worse.
What Operating system? Is TRIM functional? it needs OS support so maybe it hasn’t been working and can’t do garbage collection.
Was it a fresh install on the SSD or an image? Etc

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  #2313834 9-Sep-2019 20:38
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richms:

 

Friends kids killed their 250 gig in about 3 years in a gaming PC - its always got something downloading to it from steam that will be played for about 10 mins before something else becomes what they want to play. only 250 gig so always deleting and redownloading games. I think it was at about 350TB written to by the time it killed itself with a non booting PC.

 

 

350TB isn't a bad effort, but it's lower end. The best in the endurance test hit 2.5PB : almost 10 times more.

 

I use 120GB SSD for OS / programs (it's half full), another 120GB for data I want quickly, and spinning disks for other uses.  I use Samsung Pro rather than Evo.

 

The key difference between the Pro and the Evo is the type of NAND used: the Pro uses MLC V-NAND, while the Evo uses the cheaper and more tightly packed TLC V-NAND. 

 

Fewer bits per cell ends up being more reliable, for reasons I can't be bothered writing out and are easy to Google.


 
 
 
 


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  #2313882 10-Sep-2019 03:01
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Paul1977:

 

A little over a year ago I put an Intel 760P SSD into my PC (which is running 24/7).

 

It has 9395 power on hours, and is saying it's estimated life remaining is only 229 days.

 

These drives have a 5 year warranty, so I'm a little confused as to why it looks like it will be dead before it hit the 2 year mark?

 

 

A friend of mine removed his two Samsung EVO 850 M.2 SATA 256GB SSDs after 2 yrs use in his Synology NAS as Cache (w/M2D17 adapter). The NAS dropped them automatically at EOL.





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  #2314070 10-Sep-2019 10:29
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Beccara:

 

With that TBW i'd be looking to either replace or backup ASAP, It's at 135% of it's rated writes. I'm surprised it thinks it can go another 229 days to be honest.

 

Judging by the fact you said it's in a HP array I'd say you have something logging heavy to disk that's chewed up your writes, You have more writes than reads which would point to something being written then nuked without ever being used. To compare I have a 660p 2tb thats done 3.7tb write and 13.7tb reads

 

 

It's not in an HP array, and isn't connected to the HP controller. The HP SSA just happens to report on the SDD.


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  #2314073 10-Sep-2019 10:31
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Dairyxox: How full is it? If they’re full all the time then they perform worse.
What Operating system? Is TRIM functional? it needs OS support so maybe it hasn’t been working and can’t do garbage collection.
Was it a fresh install on the SSD or an image? Etc

 

It's on Windows 10, and the Intel toolbox says everything is configured correctly.

 

It was an image rather than a fresh install, but the image was taken from an older Intel 540 that I replaced.


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  #2314111 10-Sep-2019 11:02
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Somethings chewing up writes like crazy. What is the PC used for? Whats running on it?





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I just have to post this. Had one replaced under warranty as they were amazed. We worked out it was Plex read writes.

 

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  #2314162 10-Sep-2019 11:42
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I have a Crucial MX200 / 250MB SSD installed as C: on Windows 7.

 

I don't see any of this kind of information about the device's "life expectancy" anywhere I've looked.
How can I find out? Preferably free ;-)


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  #2314278 10-Sep-2019 13:28
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some hp raids cards can use ssd drive as a cache -  it not doing this is it?


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  #2314282 10-Sep-2019 13:36
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PolicyGuy:

 

I have a Crucial MX200 / 250MB SSD installed as C: on Windows 7.

 

I don't see any of this kind of information about the device's "life expectancy" anywhere I've looked.
How can I find out? Preferably free ;-)

 

 

Install Crucial Storage Executive from here


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#2314376 10-Sep-2019 17:01
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wratterus:

 

PolicyGuy:

 

I have a Crucial MX200 / 250MB SSD installed as C: on Windows 7.

 

I don't see any of this kind of information about the device's "life expectancy" anywhere I've looked.
How can I find out? Preferably free ;-)

 

 

Install Crucial Storage Executive from here

 

 

Thank you, exactly what I needed


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  #2315056 11-Sep-2019 14:42
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Beccara:

 

Somethings chewing up writes like crazy. What is the PC used for? Whats running on it?

 

 

Used primarily as a media server. None of the media is on the SSD though.

 

I did just discover that a Windows update from June or July was stuck in a loop trying to install then failing, rinse and repeat. Looks like it was giving C: a good trashing for at least a couple of months. I downloaded it manually and install it with issue and disk writes seem to have dropped substantially. If memory serves I've had this with other updates in the past.


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  #2316460 12-Sep-2019 11:47
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I'd still replace it if you dont want to wake up to a dead bootdisk. You're way out of spec on the writes now





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  #2316473 12-Sep-2019 12:25
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Assuming it was (for example) the 256 GB model

 

Intel says this in the specs: Endurance Rating (Lifetime Writes) 144 TBW

 

 

So using this page: https://wintelguy.com/dwpd-tbw-gbday-calc.pl

 

To use up the stated 144 TBW in 18 months would require around 256GB per day on average to be written!

 

The fact the power might be on 24/7 shouldn't matter a whole lot - as you say 'it shouldn't be doing much'.

 

That disk is being thrashed.

 

 

 

What OS are you running?

 

If you have windows 7 there is a potential problem where it may not optimise for SSDs:

 

https://superuser.com/questions/74896/confirming-that-windows-7-is-using-ssd-optimizations

 

 

 

 

 





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  #2316542 12-Sep-2019 15:10
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That's an insanely large number of writes given the power on time.....Possibly a bug? Is Intel SSD tool the latest version?

 

I suggest double checking with say AIDA64 or CrystalDiskInfo. 

 

Here's my old faithful Intel 520 for comparison...:)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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