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  Reply # 161813 3-Sep-2008 12:05
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Dratsab:
Balchy: does the eula concern anyone else? or do I need to take my tinfoil fat off?

from the EULA:

11. Content license from you

11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services.

So if I do my internet banking through their browser, they own the rights to publish my account balances?


Very good point! I think I'll put the tinfoil back on now.......be even more afraid when Google find Sarah Connor




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  Reply # 161815 3-Sep-2008 12:13
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Note how it refers to 'the services'.. one would imagine thats a fairly generic clause taken from their usual service based offerings (gmail, docs, etc.) which will be revised later - perhaps once the product is out of BETA? I really wouldnt go reading too much into it.




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RedJungle: Note how it refers to 'the services'.. one would imagine thats a fairly generic clause taken from their usual service based offerings (gmail, docs, etc.) which will be revised later - perhaps once the product is out of BETA? I really wouldnt go reading too much into it.


Don't believe him folks! he's one of them!




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lol just the pic i was looking for, and if i knew how to imbed them in posts I would have done o myself, good show sir




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RedJungle: Note how it refers to 'the services'.. one would imagine thats a fairly generic clause taken from their usual service based offerings (gmail, docs, etc.) which will be revised later - perhaps once the product is out of BETA? I really wouldnt go reading too much into it.

But isn't their web browser part of 'the services' they offer?  And why would they revise it if everyone's happy to accept it at the BETA stage?

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Mike over at WinSuperSite pointed out a couple of concerns with it. Rather valid I might add

Installing in C:\Users\[user name]\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\Application rather than in C:\Program Files\Google\Chrome has two VERY SERIOUS issues

1) Program Files has specific security restrictions to make sure that applications can't be overwritten without administrator permission.

2) Installing an app in a specific User folder means it either isn't available for other users or they have to install a separate copy in each user folder tree.

Discussion http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/paul/archive/2008/09/02/google-chrome-beta-for-windows.aspxHere
Edit: hmm, I can't do url tags in the usual fashion.

Tested that myself as a standard user and found that yeah, you can rename files, edit files willy nilly in the install directory without Windows giving a damn. Besides going against standard windows installation convention, it does undermine the security model somewhat. Yes it's a beta, and yes you can tell other applications to install there if you want. But the installer doesn't provide you with the option to change location and I'd expect even a beta to be installed in its actual resting place, not some temp area. Alphas maybe but not Betas


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  Reply # 161828 3-Sep-2008 12:50
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Dratsab:
RedJungle: Note how it refers to 'the services'.. one would imagine thats a fairly generic clause taken from their usual service based offerings (gmail, docs, etc.) which will be revised later - perhaps once the product is out of BETA? I really wouldnt go reading too much into it.

But isn't their web browser part of 'the services' they offer?  And why would they revise it if everyone's happy to accept it at the BETA stage?


This is getting well OT so I'll just say this:

I'm not convinced a web browser qualifies as a 'service'.. nor that the quoted passage is even relevent (or referring) to the Chrome product.. looks generic 'covering their ass' stuff to me... at any rate.. supposing they did have the right to republish your data - how would they even get a hold of it?

Also please try to keep in mind that this is BETA software guys - i.e. will contain bugs / problems / not for average users consumption / work in progress / may contain traces of nuts!




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Chrome's  new look is a nice change.  I found photobucket was faster and it's faster when java is used.

I miss the firefox plugin,  but it has got a nice debugger like thing,  a bit like firefox plug firebug, IE8 has this feature also,  seems it's in vogue.

http://acid3.acidtests.org/ gives it a 79/100 and firefox 71/100

It didn't draw the google ads properly and  there is no spell checking.  I like it's smaller borders.

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Hmm...

Just got it - and I've got to say - it's a wonderful product!

Even though quite a lot of things are missing compared to other browsers out there - this would be great for the majority of users. Definitely a good thing about simplicity.

When pages load, it seems slower than Firefox 3...

Rendering comes from WebKit (as told by everyone else, and you can also go to "about:" to find out more) so expect differences on sites not made for Safari...
Geekzone already is a site with some differences between Mozilla/Gecko and Safari/WebKit (text styling etc...)





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garvani: Ive been using for the last 5 mins, not terribly impressed. Its definetly a LOT slower here than firefox3, that might be because of our ISA server however? I tried smaps, it didnt work out so well, type in a name of a street, click on the autofill information and it searches for only what you had typed? anyone else having that problem?  And wheres the scroll wheel clicking gone? (i cant scroll up and down by clicking the scroll wheel).. oh and no right click spell check either
I can see the smaps problem - it only seems to be smaps though, YouTube's autofill works.

Scroll wheel clicking is called "autoscrolling" - and is also missing from Safari (and so gets transferred to Chrome)

Spell check aint everywhere yet... but I'm sure Google will probably add spellcheck using their web services somehow...




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I've been using it on and off today.  It's fine, it's a browser.  It renders my OWA page a bit better than Firefox does.  But then so does IE and Safari.  I'm not sure I'm a fan of the "tabs on top" feel of the UI.  But I do like some of the features, such as the task manager and the way it presents thumbnails of recent sites when you open a tab.  It has huge potential for sure.  Is it just me or is there no "ctrl+scroll" to zoom a page?  I can zoom text that way but not the actual scaling of the page itself?

Also, is there any word on how secure this browser is?  Safari was all bells and whistles when it was first released last year but that fanfare faded fast once people realised how insecure it was on Windows.  I'm curious to know how well this rates safety-wise??

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gehenna: Is it just me or is there no "ctrl+scroll" to zoom a page?  I can zoom text that way but not the actual scaling of the page itself?

Yep - no page zoom, but text zoom. Safari doesn't have it yet as well.




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Just a thought...I wonder if this is a sign of things to come with Android?  Safari for Windows came out with the iPhone didn't it, so that bookmarks and the like could sync via iTunes to the phone.  Could the UI features that we're seeing with Chrome give some indication of the types of features we can see on an Android phone for the web browsing experience?

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gehenna: Just a thought...I wonder if this is a sign of things to come with Android?  Safari for Windows came out with the iPhone didn't it, so that bookmarks and the like could sync via iTunes to the phone.  Could the UI features that we're seeing with Chrome give some indication of the types of features we can see on an Android phone for the web browsing experience?

While not exactly related, I was thinking of the possibility on the inclusion of Chrome in netbooks (like the Eee...) as it's simple, makes the most of the screen, open source, and quite fast. (just need to wait for a Linux version)




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