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  #2428195 27-Feb-2020 13:26
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networkn:

 

 

 

Just wondering, what do you notice with your $650 motherboard that you wouldn't get from a say.. $450 motherboard. I mean, your money, no worries there, but in terms of value proposition, it's easy to get wiped out spending $$$$ on hype.

 

I mean if we talk HDD's there is an appreciable difference between say a 5400/7200 rpm drive, or Spinning vs SSD etc.. Even to some degree, bigger processor...

 

 

 

 

Understand where you are coming from, for me it was the extra feature sets, another nvme slot, the extra phases for the vrm and a lot of other small things, I bought mine to use as my unraid server so the extra cost was well worth it for me.





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  #2428271 27-Feb-2020 14:10
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Hey guys. Just like my i2500k I want this to last 10 years with minor uogrades along the way. Gaming I just want to play Cyberpunk when it comes out and what ever else. Its not a major but I want something decent for now. I will only be 1440p so im sure the 2080 will last a long while.

I went with the 3900x because I want to edit 4k gopro footage. I use resolve free but may buy Premiere.
Not sure if I need a 600 mb as I dont bother with overclocking.

Its not often the wife says go hard so I want to make the most of it.
Im sure in 5 years more software/games will make use of the cores. Thoughts?

 
 
 
 




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  #2428276 27-Feb-2020 14:13
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I have changed to 16gb ram and changed to the 2080 super. Dropped to 650w powersupply and got a smaller m2 and managed to stay under budget with legit windows

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  #2428279 27-Feb-2020 14:16
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Your expectations of a PC lasting 10 Years is unrealistic in my opinion. I would expect the useful life of a well spec'd and good quality PC to be around the 4-5 Year Mark. I think you could dramatically cut your budget, still get a very capable machine.

 

Like in all things in life, there is a law of diminishing returns at which you are paying $$$$ for an extra 1-2% of real-life performance benefit.

 

You could consider 16GB memory, though memory is cheap right now, so I'd personally go with slightly slower 32GB for some headroom.

 

Some of your specs are overkill for your requirement in my opinion. Save some money and put it mentally aside for an upgrade down the track, where you are likely getting better bang for your buck.

 

 

 

 


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  #2428297 27-Feb-2020 14:52
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Id change to 7200 rpm hdd over the slow 5400 rpm one. I believe the extra speed will benefit

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  #2428331 27-Feb-2020 16:36
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I agree with the whole setting expectations, the i5 2500k was a anomaly in value due to intel/amd shenanigans.

What’s more likely to happen is the cpu getting upgraded in a year or so to ryzen 4xxx series. If that happens then its better to go for a 3700x now (or 3600) and replace it later to whatever 12/16c offering is available.

32GB ram sound like the best option considering you want to do media work. 16GB doesn’t seem to be enough if you ask around the hobbyist who do this, some might recommend 64GB.

The crucial p1 is the minimum nvme you can get, only get something better like the samsungs or a pcie4 speed ssd if you really need it.

Psu is solid choice corsair rm series, otherwise evga g2/g3. Get a 650 if you ever intend to power a 250W gpu plus a 16c cpu at max load, but you’re unlikely to ever hit max with how power efficiency is going.

Gpu I would probably get a 2070s now as next years release will probably be better than the 2080/s/ti

Monitor is up to you really on research, bunch of people on monitor forums were after the LG 27GL850 1440p 144Hz but not sure if it’s affordable here

Edit: for cpu cooler if you’re going 3700x or higher its best to get a solid cooler that’ll keep it below 70 regularly, the u12 you listed can do it but having its bigger brother or something like the dark rock 4/pro would keep it well under.

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  #2428334 27-Feb-2020 16:58
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networkn:

 

Your expectations of a PC lasting 10 Years is unrealistic in my opinion.

I would expect the useful life of a well spec'd and good quality PC to be around the 4-5 Year Mark.

 

I think you could dramatically cut your budget, still get a very capable machine.

 

Like in all things in life, there is a law of diminishing returns at which you are paying $$$$ for an extra 1-2% of real-life performance benefit. ...

 

 

+1

 

As above.

 

Any state-of-the-art PC will be superseded in 6 months.

 

You cannot "future-proof" your build by throwing money at it.

 

Halve your budget, and build another PC in 5 years time with the money that you have saved.

 

Disclosure: I build myself a new PC every year (because I enjoy building.)

 

Each one is better - and slightly cheaper for the same or better specs - than the previous one.

 

M2 solid state drives have been a huge step forward, both for performance and ease of building.





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  #2428385 27-Feb-2020 18:07
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Thanks for all your help. Lots to think about


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  #2428414 27-Feb-2020 18:36
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keriboi:

Thanks for all your help. Lots to think about



That cpu and gpu will serve you well for a while yet, good luck with the build and post an update.



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  #2428425 27-Feb-2020 19:01
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Just a random one. With the 7200rpm would this work? 

 

https://www.playtech.co.nz/wd-wd2002ffsx-2tb-red-pro-3-5-7200rpm-sata3-nas-hard-drive.html

 

 


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