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Master Geek

  Reply # 297442 9-Feb-2010 18:07
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Ah true no I haven't. That's the easiest try first, will give it a go now.

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  Reply # 297448 9-Feb-2010 18:19
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SteveFari: Ah true no I haven't. That's the easiest try first, will give it a go now.

Here is a quick list of the steps if you run into trouble (you only want to do the IDE drivers for now, others can be sorted later):

Now we must go to the Device Manager and change every driver for every device on the motherboard to a generic driver. Many will already be using a generic driver, so what you are looking for is anything with the chipset manufacturer's name in it. For example: if your chipset is a VIA chipset, you will see "VIA IDE Controller" in the "IDE ATA/ATAPI Controller" section in the device manager. Another example: if your chipset is an Intel chipset, you will see "Intel IDE Controller".

Generally, the motherboard's devices will be in the following sections of your device manager:

  • IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers

  • System Devices

Also if you have onboard devices, such as, graphics, audio USB, Firewire, or LAN, the you will need to change these drivers at some point, but they could be ignored for now. The proper drivers can be installed after you get Windows running on the new hardware. They are found in the following sections of the device manager:

  • Display adapters

  • Network adapters (doesn't need to be changed immediately unless you think you'll need the internet during the swap, for some reason)

  • Sound, video and game controllers

  • IEEE 1394 Bus host controllers       (Firewire)

  • Universal Serial Bus controllers

Ok, so here's how we change them:

  1. Right-click on "My Computer"

  2. Click on "Manage"

  3. On the left side, you will see "Device Manager" in the list, click it

  4. Click on a section that contains a driver you wish to change (EX: "IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers")

  5. Right-click on the driver you wish to change (EX: "VIA IDE Controller") and select "Update Driver"

  6. Choose "No, not this time" and click "Next"

  7. Choose "Install from a list or specific location (advanced)" and click "Next"

  8. Choose "Don't search. I will choose the driver to install" and click "Next"

  9. You will see a list of compatible drivers, click the one that says "Standard" somewhere in the name (EX: "Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller") and click "Next"

  10. Windows will install the Standard driver and should ask if you want to restart. DO NOT RESTART.

  11. Repeat each of these steps for every driver that has the manufacturer's name in it (VIA, Intel, ATI, Nvidia, SIS, ALi, etc), that is in the "IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers" and "System Devices" sections. All must be Standard.

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Master Geek

  Reply # 297456 9-Feb-2010 18:47
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Man awesome set of instructions thank you. But gulp it still f'ing reboots. I'm sure I'm seeing the XP splash screen for 1 second longer now but still no dice.
I changed all the IDE/ATAPI controllers and System Devices to standard, those that were brand named.

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  Reply # 297463 9-Feb-2010 19:00
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Sorry that didn't work for you.

Right the next thing i would try would be to change any system drivers in there to Generic and see what happens.

What windows does when it boots is load each driver one at a time, chances are changing the IDE drivers allowed it to get past that point, but it hit another one that crashed it.

What are the CPU's in each of the machines? Are the both Intel or AMD or is one Intel and the other AMD?

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  Reply # 297464 9-Feb-2010 19:04
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If the machine you built windows on is running an Intel CPU and the other PC is running an AMD CPU follow these instructions too: (bear in mind this is ONLY for if you went from an Intel CPU to an AMD CPU)

1. Open "My Computer"
2. Go to this folder: "C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers"
3. Rename intelppm.sys to something else (EX: "intelppm.sys.old")

If you cannot find the file, then it might be hidden. To change it from hidden:

1. Click on the "Tools" menu
2. Click "Folder Options"
3. Click on the "View" tab
4. Uncheck the box that says "Hide Protected Operating System Files"
5. Also click on "Show hidden files and folders"
6. Click "OK"

Now, to make sure it is off we need to change one small setting in the registry. If you don't know what your doing, don't do this.

1. Click the Start button and then click "Run..."
2. Type regedit and click "OK"
3. Navigate to "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE" / "SYSTEM" / "CurrentControlSet" / "Services" / "IntelPPM"
4. Double click on "Start" and change the value to "4"
5. Close regedit

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Master Geek

  Reply # 297466 9-Feb-2010 19:09
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They are actually both Intel cpu's. I will try changing all drivers to standard and let you know shortly.
I swear if the bl00dy bios had an option to change to IDE all problems over I reckon, but that's irrelevent :)

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Master Geek

  Reply # 297477 9-Feb-2010 19:44
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Nah still reboots.
I'm trying the nlite suggestion by loading in my sata drivers to the install to see if that makes a difference.

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  Reply # 297479 9-Feb-2010 19:46
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No worries, sorry I couldn't more help for you though.

Let us know how you get on with this one dude.

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Master Geek

  Reply # 297616 10-Feb-2010 11:50
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try re-arranging the boot priority in bios ??
what mobo do you have?

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Master Geek

  Reply # 298636 13-Feb-2010 14:36
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hi, I managed to get it all working ok. The nlite image with the sata drivers added to it worked. It has windows installed now and doesn't reboot but it's primary system drive is now D:\ and not D:\ for some reason but at least it goes.
I now just have to try and recover photos I shift-del deleted by accident!!

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Master Geek

  Reply # 298640 13-Feb-2010 14:47
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sorry it'd D:\ and not c:\ ...

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