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# 138276 28-Dec-2013 10:08
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Hi guys.

We know that Apple and Android are the two biggest players in the market and then there is the little cousin down near the bottom, Windows Phone. I have wanted to try Windows Phone for about a month or so now. I am not a big "hack my phone to install custom roms" kind of guy, but I do like owning the latest and greatest even though it is probably more powerful than what I actually need. I wont be buying one of the current Lumia devices because in the first quarter of next year we all know the new phones get announced. I will probably get the newest Lumia then, hopefully something like the 1520's specs, in a smaller screen.

Im going a bit off topic now, but I was wondering why more people wont try Windows Phone? The most common reason seems to be the app store, but there must be more to it than that. This might turn into a Apple Vs Android Vs WP debate and that probably will end up badly, so please try and keep it clean :D


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  # 958215 28-Dec-2013 10:20
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People trying smartphones these days seem to be attracted to cheap Android devices. Those disappoint terribly so if they feel bad about their purchase their either go to iPhone ("a friend told me it's a real smartphone") or if there's an investment in purchased apps up on the Android price ladder.

If the person is planning on buying a smartphone and for some reason has not been previously influenced then the the entry-level Windows Phone models are doing ok mainly because of price point. But the more expensive ones are probably a hard sell for a novice user, so it probably is something only users of previous Windows Phone devices buy.

In terms of apps, they are growing and there's a good variety. Hard not to find an app or equivalent in the Store. Sometimes the official apps are actually second to the alternatives anyway.




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  # 958226 28-Dec-2013 11:04
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I really want to investigate windows mobile more, especially whether it includes central management in an active directory network.





 
 
 
 


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  # 958228 28-Dec-2013 11:09
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I have a windows phone, and i love to use it but it could do with a larger marketplace for apps, or more apps made properly for it.




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  # 958276 28-Dec-2013 12:25
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It's a troublesome shift moving between iOS, Android and Windows. When there's such good products available it is hard for most people to justify the extra effort required to learn a new interface and, more importantly, give up the automatic habits that we've developed.

We have all three in our household and Windows clear advantage is that it is easier to operate for the literally ham-fisted. If you have trouble with your large digits or accurate finger movement then the larger icons/buttons are an advantage.

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  # 958309 28-Dec-2013 13:49
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It's the whole chicken and egg with with the apps/ecosystem that puts me off. I've borrowed Windows Phones from my account manager before and I could live with one if I was forced, but at the moment it's iOS for me just for the ecosystem/apps.

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  # 958310 28-Dec-2013 13:56
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coz in the last 3 years i have perfected the environment on my samsung galaxies, why would i want to change?




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  # 958311 28-Dec-2013 13:56
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oh and not to mentino complete backward app market. i have a windows tablet - spent whole of lastnight and found nothing




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  # 958314 28-Dec-2013 14:06
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joker97: oh and not to mentino complete backward app market. i have a windows tablet - spent whole of lastnight and found nothing


The windows phone 8 market place is more mature compared to the windows 8 market place. You can't discredit it when you've only tried the latter.

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  # 958322 28-Dec-2013 14:28
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WP's and Apple are too restrictive for me as i like the freedom of flashing and customising, the majority don't do this I know but its the reason I stay with android.

I think the app reason is lame as we all know that android was in the same situation and look t it now.


Like Joker I've pretty well setup my phone the way I like itr regardless of the model and know the ins and outs of it.
MS needs to market itself better but I would think that there will always be a place for android given its pricing structure, Apple is over priced, WP's are not too bad but for those wanting to try a smart phone Android is the only option in the low price range.




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  # 958324 28-Dec-2013 14:38
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You will find pros and cons for each, it all comes down to how many tickboxes get ticked and do the big tick boxes get ticked. No doubt WP will grow app-wise, so all three will be worthy challengers to the other two.

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  # 958328 28-Dec-2013 14:54
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z2k:
joker97: oh and not to mentino complete backward app market. i have a windows tablet - spent whole of lastnight and found nothing


The windows phone 8 market place is more mature compared to the windows 8 market place. You can't discredit it when you've only tried the latter.


Now that i didn't realise! So there's a different app store for RT too?




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  # 958335 28-Dec-2013 15:26
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jeffnz: WP's and Apple are too restrictive for me as i like the freedom of flashing and customising, the majority don't do this I know but its the reason I stay with android.


From what I understand doing that requires you to root your Android? You can do that with an iOS device as well. There is a large jailbreak community for the iOS devices.




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  # 958338 28-Dec-2013 15:32
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Anything created by Microsoft has a very 'uncool' stigma attached to it, possibly derived from those 'I'm a PC, I'm a MAC' ads run some years ago. No one want's to be the guy wearing the geeky glasses, tucked in shirt and suspenders.

I'm sure there isn't anything wrong with the devices and OS, but why settle for second or third best.

Personally I've only played with it for a few minutes to setup exchange email for someone, and wasn't too impressed with the lack of configuration options, but that could have been due to the device being a low end model.





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  # 958341 28-Dec-2013 16:03
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jeffnz: WP's and Apple are too restrictive for me as i like the freedom of flashing and customising, the majority don't do this I know but its the reason I stay with android.


From what I understand doing that requires you to root your Android? You can do that with an iOS device as well. There is a large jailbreak community for the iOS devices.

yes  I am aware of it but the "out of the box" experience in Apple and WP's is too restrictive before you even look at root access android is streets ahead in that respect. Apple, to me, is overpriced for what you get although it is a nice phone but Apple itself is too controlling, with Android manufacturers they can't afford to be as restrictive. MS is somewhat similar in my eyes except at least the have a few manufacturers which keep phone affordable and competitive.




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  # 958345 28-Dec-2013 16:10
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One man's meat is another man's poison.

Those you want full control and tweaking to the ends of the earth can get a high end android.

Those who just wants it to work and don't want any hassle can get apple stuff, and then when they want it to do something that their geek friend's android can, they find that it can't be done and just accept it and move on to the next iphone br satisfied.

Those who wants to be in sync with their business environment could get a windows phone, but so far i am too ignorant to describe their niche customer ...




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