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  #1438167 30-Nov-2015 21:25
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Technofreak: It's a weird world we live in where the retailer dictates what the customer can buy. That's not a dig at MS but a comment on this situation in general.

Why should Telco's have this power? In fact why should they be in the device retail space at all? We're back in the days where the NZPO dictated what phone you had in your house.

TV service providers like Sky don't sell TV's nor do they dictate what sort of device you can buy. I'm sure there are other examples.


TV is very much like telco. Sky is never going to let you decode their channels on FreeviewPlus devices for instance. Until recently TVNZ On Demand favoured Samsung TVs over other brands.

Pretty much any industry in which large businesses are involved in the distribution are going to have these kinds of market effects. We should be thankful we're not in the US where large swathes of the country are only covered by one cellular provider. In this local monopoly situation, both device manufacturers and customers have to bend over and be thankful for what they get.




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  #1439760 3-Dec-2015 10:34
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so how parallel imports offer the Lumia 950xl cheaper than Microsoft. are they selling them at a lost.

950XL $1,179.00 vs Microsoft $1,299.00

 
 
 
 


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  #1439814 3-Dec-2015 11:37
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nzrocketman: so how parallel imports offer the Lumia 950xl cheaper than Microsoft. are they selling them at a lost.

950XL $1,179.00 vs Microsoft $1,299.00


Parallel imports of many products are generally cheaper... the advantage of parallel imports is either cheaper stocks, or access to units not locally available.  Often the products are bought from markets that shift much larger quantities of product and therefore get lower buying prices through volume.

Most products you buy from parallel import store don't come with local warranty/repair options etc - you need to return to store who then ship units back overseas to point of origin.  Providing local warranty/service has a cost.

Add the local warranty options, to lower volume discounts, and you'll start to see where the price difference can come in.

(NB i'm speaking generally here, not specifically. This could apply to any product on market.  Though I work at MSNZ, i'm not in device sales and I have no knowledge of channel or landed lumia costs etc, so cant comment on that directly)




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  #1439854 3-Dec-2015 12:33
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nzrocketman: so how parallel imports offer the Lumia 950xl cheaper than Microsoft. are they selling them at a lost.

950XL $1,179.00 vs Microsoft $1,299.00


I would happily pay $120 (10%) for local support and warranty.


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  #1439910 3-Dec-2015 14:10
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nzrocketman: so how parallel imports offer the Lumia 950xl cheaper than Microsoft. are they selling them at a lost.

950XL $1,179.00 vs Microsoft $1,299.00


do they charge GST?

will they give you a tax invoice saying you paid GST on your purchase?

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  #1439912 3-Dec-2015 14:14
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its say inclusive 

http://www.digiparallelimports.co.nz/microsoft-lumia-950-xl-rm1085-white-p-6540.html.

im still waiting to see if a carrier will pick up once of the lumia's any time soon.  but im not holding my breath so this might be a good option

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  #1439915 3-Dec-2015 14:15
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nathan:
do they charge GST?

will they give you a tax invoice saying you paid GST on your purchase?


They're a brick and mortar store, so I would guess yes to both?

http://www.digiparallelimports.co.nz/microsoft-lumia-950-xl-rm1085-white-p-6540.html 

 
 
 
 


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  #1439926 3-Dec-2015 14:46
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wasabi2k:
nzrocketman: so how parallel imports offer the Lumia 950xl cheaper than Microsoft. are they selling them at a lost.

950XL $1,179.00 vs Microsoft $1,299.00


I would happily pay $120 (10%) for local support and warranty.



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  #1439927 3-Dec-2015 14:48
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nzrocketman: its say inclusive 

http://www.digiparallelimports.co.nz/microsoft-lumia-950-xl-rm1085-white-p-6540.html.

im still waiting to see if a carrier will pick up once of the lumia's any time soon.  but im not holding my breath so this might be a good option


a carrier will be, but its up to them when they wish to disclose this as its their announcement not ours.

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  #1439987 3-Dec-2015 16:20
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I will likely get mine via HK or China, pre-release pricing looks a lot better. http://world.taobao.com/item/523147896614.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.3VsQK6#detail
http://world.taobao.com/item/524656156843.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.pFSCt0#detail
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  #1439995 3-Dec-2015 16:23
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sidefx:
nathan:
do they charge GST?

will they give you a tax invoice saying you paid GST on your purchase?


They're a brick and mortar store, so I would guess yes to both?

http://www.digiparallelimports.co.nz/microsoft-lumia-950-xl-rm1085-white-p-6540.html 


Ouch, that's a lot of coin for a plastic phone with limited apps, me thinks ...

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  #1440586 4-Dec-2015 15:14
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nzrocketman: its say inclusive 

http://www.digiparallelimports.co.nz/microsoft-lumia-950-xl-rm1085-white-p-6540.html.

im still waiting to see if a carrier will pick up once of the lumia's any time soon.  but im not holding my breath so this might be a good option


I have $20 that says one will do so after Christmas, maybe late January or February.

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  #1440933 5-Dec-2015 11:51
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For those that hadn't seen this yet here is the GSM Areana hands on review of the 950.   http://www.gsmarena.com/microsoft_lumia_950-review-1347.php

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  #1441747 7-Dec-2015 08:39
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Interesting isn't it.  The 950s were introduced in October and the reviewers still can't quite get it right.  Stating liquid cooling as a disadvantage with the 950 is N/A as the 950 never had liquid cooling.  It was only the 950Xl with the SNAPDRAGON 810 that has the liquid cooling.

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  #1442425 7-Dec-2015 23:55
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MarkTat: Interesting isn't it.  The 950s were introduced in October and the reviewers still can't quite get it right.  Stating liquid cooling as a disadvantage with the 950 is N/A as the 950 never had liquid cooling.  It was only the 950Xl with the SNAPDRAGON 810 that has the liquid cooling.


Nothing new, many reviewers have been getting it wrong for years.

Some just copy and paste from elsewhere, some don't seem to know about anything except Android or iPhone and because the phone they're reviewing doesn't work they way they're used to it's no good, or just because they cannot work out how to access a particular feature therefore that phone doesn't have it.

It's amazing how many seem to think the dock is a pre requisite for using Continum. They don't do their homework.




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