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  Reply # 1442491 8-Dec-2015 09:23
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For anyone interested, search Tech Trinkets on YouTube. He has quite a few videos comparing the 950XL with other current flagships, plus the older Lumia 1520.

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  Reply # 1442500 8-Dec-2015 09:33
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Well, NZ pre-orders are supposed to ship today. Anyone had confirmation?

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  Reply # 1442532 8-Dec-2015 10:33
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Had a look at Tech Trinkets videos.  It seems the speed test may have been a bit skewed as the Windows phone for that app is not ideal.  It was also noted that there should be improvement with the updates to come this week or so.  Apparently the other phones weren't perfect from the get go either.

As I noted before always have to take the critiques with a grain of salt.  My theory with almost any tech (especially expensive tech) has been wait until the kinks are ironed out and then check it out for myself.  That will probably be early next year.

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  Reply # 1442813 8-Dec-2015 15:01
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MarkTat: Had a look at Tech Trinkets videos.  It seems the speed test may have been a bit skewed as the Windows phone for that app is not ideal.  It was also noted that there should be improvement with the updates to come this week or so.  Apparently the other phones weren't perfect from the get go either.

As I noted before always have to take the critiques with a grain of salt.  My theory with almost any tech (especially expensive tech) has been wait until the kinks are ironed out and then check it out for myself.  That will probably be early next year.


Wouldn't place much faith in the Tech Trinket review, probably the most shallow attempt at a review of mobile phone and ecosystems I have seen to date. I would far rather trust some one who owns and uses a high end android phone and likewise fruit phone and a windows phone to give their in use honest impressions of how the eco system responds and what they see are the comparative differences in use, not the silly fatuous " This app loads in 326 mS and on this other phone it loads in 433 mS" bulsh*t, which in the real world means zip to the stability and ease of use that the end user gets.

Having owned and used Blackberry, Android, Iphone, Symbian and Windows Phone I am very confident in saying most of the benchmark tests that people employ to compare phone ecosystems and hardware bare little to no relationship to phone usability and effectiveness as communications or business tools.

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  Reply # 1442861 8-Dec-2015 15:24
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MarkTat: Had a look at Tech Trinkets videos.  It seems the speed test may have been a bit skewed as the Windows phone for that app is not ideal.  It was also noted that there should be improvement with the updates to come this week or so.  Apparently the other phones weren't perfect from the get go either.

As I noted before always have to take the critiques with a grain of salt.  My theory with almost any tech (especially expensive tech) has been wait until the kinks are ironed out and then check it out for myself.  That will probably be early next year.


Wouldn't place much faith in the Tech Trinket review, probably the most shallow attempt at a review of mobile phone and ecosystems I have seen to date. I would far rather trust some one who owns and uses a high end android phone and likewise fruit phone and a windows phone to give their in use honest impressions of how the eco system responds and what they see are the comparative differences in use, not the silly fatuous " This app loads in 326 mS and on this other phone it loads in 433 mS" bulsh*t, which in the real world means zip to the stability and ease of use that the end user gets.

Having owned and used Blackberry, Android, Iphone, Symbian and Windows Phone I am very confident in saying most of the benchmark tests that people employ to compare phone ecosystems and hardware bare little to no relationship to phone usability and effectiveness as communications or business tools.


Totally agree!!

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  Reply # 1442872 8-Dec-2015 15:30
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God dam I want that 950. Camera sounds like a beast, the night shots I've seen look amazing.

Stupid windows phones not letting me install Android.

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  Reply # 1442875 8-Dec-2015 15:38
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Kopkiwi: God dam I want that 950. Camera sounds like a beast, the night shots I've seen look amazing.

Stupid windows phones not letting me install Android.


There is the faint hope that what you want will happen in another way "Build it and they will come" ie if the phone is that good and it attracts enough uptake from former Android and Iphone users then developers might get the urge to update their apps to Windoze compatible using Windozes existing conversion software.

Whilst I want the 950 as well the price is a barrier, I could buy a 2nd hand 1520 or a 930 for 1/3 or less of the current Microsoft asking price or my other option a new Blackberry Passport or Classic for around 4 to 500. (Blackberry supports Android apps)

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  Reply # 1443196 8-Dec-2015 22:57
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The 950 and 950XL can now be added to your cart on the MS New Zealand website. Looks like 950 out of stock but the XL was available to purchase. Still can't see anything from the telcos...anyone know when they will have them available, and who will have them?

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  Reply # 1443230 9-Dec-2015 00:46
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I think the white 950 is still in stock, just the black that is now out of stock. Damn pre-orders. :P

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  Reply # 1456272 23-Dec-2015 20:43
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Quiet here...

I got my 950 yesterday, I very much doubt I was among the first in the country because my order was delayed due to various dramas. For those wondering, "Ship by December 8" meant stock was ready to be picked up from a warehouse somewhere in Apac on that date.

It's a nice enough device, I like the form factor, weight and screen, I guess I don't place a lot of value on bling factor. But I'm feeling nervous about robustness. The back cover is bendy and very easy to take off, I bet the phone would fly apart if dropped from some height. I hate cases but I don't see how I can get away without one - maybe I can use bumpies.co if the corner curvature is the same as an iphone or samsung.

The "Windows Hello" iris scan seems to work best in the conditions it was trained on and struggles outside of these. Other than that W10M feels like going back to V1 of WP8 in a lot of ways. Everything looks the same but different, and the same things aren't working again - FM radio for instance (though I've heard it works on the 950XL, go figure). I expect it'll be months before most of the wrinkles are ironed out.

No Cortana and crummy Bing results for search and maps for NZ was expected but still disappointing. Somehow I was led to believe *cough* nathan */cough* that MS was focused on rolling these out to more countries. Hard to understand why it's been so difficult to stretch the envelope across from AU to NZ.

For continuum I'm still figuring out which adapter to get. I believe the continuum dock is a wired-only option, and I can see myself wanting to use TVs wirelessly from across a room.




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  Reply # 1456406 24-Dec-2015 09:53
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Yeah I picked mine up the other day too. It feels like a nice device to me and I have already dropped it twice without a scratch or mark and no flying apart. I can't say I notice any problems with HERE maps compared to Google Maps though. I actually prefer the HERE interface in a number of instances.

I don't use or want to use FM radio so that was not a concern for me

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  Reply # 1456409 24-Dec-2015 09:56
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I watched PocketNow's video on the 950XL yesterday, they didn't rate it at all.

App store crashed, apps wouldn't download, apps would crash, camera would crash and more.

As they said, its as if MS pushed this out without fixing a few things first. 

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  Reply # 1456474 24-Dec-2015 12:27
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For continuum I'm still figuring out which adapter to get. I believe the continuum dock is a wired-only option, and I can see myself wanting to use TVs wirelessly from across a room.


yep, dock is wired only.  the phone can do continuum via miracast, but it eats battery a bit faster doing full screen res.  the dock charges it when its plugged in so is a great options for home office.

Cortana is coming... still no date for you sorry :(

I generally find the maps/nav fine around auckland.  You can still use google to search from the browser if you like.

As for cases, i'm considering one of these mozo leather replacement back cases - http://mozoaccessories.com/ they look pretty nice!





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  Reply # 1456476 24-Dec-2015 12:29
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The "Windows Hello" iris scan seems to work best in the conditions it was trained on and struggles outside of these.


you can re-train it over and over again in different light conditions.  I find mine works well in very low light, normal light, and outdoors unless the sun is *really* bright.  works straight through my Oakley sunglasses too




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  Reply # 1456478 24-Dec-2015 12:31
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I ran into that black start screen bug yesterday actually, all I did was press the power button to 'turn off' the screen and again to turn it back on and all was well again. Soon afterward I received an OS update and haven't seen it since. I haven't run into errors with the app store or app or camera crashes though. I can record 4k without issue both before and after the update.

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