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  #1435315 26-Nov-2015 15:45
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nathan: The US Store has DS, and it was always going to be DS

The NZ Store has SS, as that is what the carriers in the region who are launching them want


No Carriers are launching them here

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  #1435316 26-Nov-2015 15:47
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freitasm: Holy... That's an expensive phone for a company trying to get over 1.8% market share.



well that isn't MS pricing, its significantly more.  I guess early adopters always are willing to pay more, which is what PB is banking on.

 
 
 
 


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  #1435318 26-Nov-2015 15:47
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nzrocketman:
nathan: The US Store has DS, and it was always going to be DS

The NZ Store has SS, as that is what the carriers in the region who are launching them want


No Carriers are launching them here


yes 1 will be

and in the region = more than 1 region, AKA APAC

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  #1435322 26-Nov-2015 15:51
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nunasdream:
MikeB4:
freitasm: Holy... That's an expensive phone for a company trying to get over 1.8% market share.



Hmmm I don't understand MSFT's strategy at all, I wonder if they even have one.


It doesn't seem like it. These phones should have been released a year ago as well. They're really not impressive versus what other manufacturers make.


its a phone for Windows fanboys and productivity/business people in the Windows 10 ecosystem

The camera is awesome, the specs compare well to other devices in the market and it is some unique features like Contiuum

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  #1435330 26-Nov-2015 15:59
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nathan: The US Store has DS, and it was always going to be DS

The NZ Store has SS, as that is what the carriers in the region who are launching them want


I bet the partly eaten fruit product wouldn't kowtow to the local carriers.  

With the support (lack there of) I've seen local carriers have given to some of the Nokia/Lumia products I don't know why MS are buckling to their pressure. Even though the Telco is providing the Nokia/Lumia phone on contract I've seen sales people steer potential purchasers to other products.

Seems to me there is a market for dual sim.  Those that want it will parallel import or buy another brand, those that don't care will buy locally or may still import depending on price.

The local Telco's won't stop customers from sim hopping. If they provide good service they'll keep their customers. Holding customers to "ransom" by stopping sales of dual sim is very short sighted.

MS would be better off selling the DS version in my opinion and to hell with Telco support.




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  #1435356 26-Nov-2015 16:35
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nathan: The US Store has DS, and it was always going to be DS

The NZ Store has SS, as that is what the carriers in the region who are launching them want


I bet the partly eaten fruit product wouldn't kowtow to the local carriers.  

With the support (lack there of) I've seen local carriers have given to some of the Nokia/Lumia products I don't know why MS are buckling to their pressure. Even though the Telco is providing the Nokia/Lumia phone on contract I've seen sales people steer potential purchasers to other products.

Seems to me there is a market for dual sim.  Those that want it will parallel import or buy another brand, those that don't care will buy locally or may still import depending on price.

The local Telco's won't stop customers from sim hopping. If they provide good service they'll keep their customers. Holding customers to "ransom" by stopping sales of dual sim is very short sighted.

MS would be better off selling the DS version in my opinion and to hell with Telco support.


its slightly more complicated than you make out :)

course there is a market, I'm using a DS myself, but you're going to have to parallel import to buy one in NZ, they're not currently available from the Microsoft Store

Expansys, clove, MS Store USA etc all have them available

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  #1435359 26-Nov-2015 16:38
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nathan: 

its slightly more complicated than you make out :)



Unfortunately that's the way things are in life. Mores the pity.




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  #1435360 26-Nov-2015 16:39
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Don't blame the telco's in NZ blame telstra in AU :P

They are the ones that wanted the SS version.



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  #1435402 26-Nov-2015 17:24
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nathan: The US Store has DS, and it was always going to be DS

The NZ Store has SS, as that is what the carriers in the region who are launching them want


The regional carriers would prefer the Zero sim option for lumias :-)

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  #1436063 27-Nov-2015 14:12
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I am guessing that all the lumia 950's may well be dual sim. What is truly amazing is the lack of clarity from Microsoft regarding some of the basic specs of these phones dual sim being a good example of their apparent disinterest in their own product.

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  #1436065 27-Nov-2015 14:27
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nzrocketman:
nathan: The US Store has DS, and it was always going to be DS

The NZ Store has SS, as that is what the carriers in the region who are launching them want


No Carriers are launching them here


If the phones are available from the Microsoft Store then why say "it's what the carriers in the region..." - it's Microsoft selling those so carriers shouldn't be a factor (only on the models they sell through their own stores).






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  #1436112 27-Nov-2015 15:29
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freitasm:
nzrocketman:
nathan: The US Store has DS, and it was always going to be DS

The NZ Store has SS, as that is what the carriers in the region who are launching them want


No Carriers are launching them here


If the phones are available from the Microsoft Store then why say "it's what the carriers in the region..." - it's Microsoft selling those so carriers shouldn't be a factor (only on the models they sell through their own stores).


I agree.  I suspect the carriers have stipulated if you sell dual sim we won't sell it. Carriers have too much say IMHO.

Telecom was going to stock the N8 then did a back track.  The excuse was phone wasn't compatible. Really? The one my wife had worked perfectly on their network. I suspect there was politics involved.

Nokia had poor market penetration in the US partly because they refused to downgrade some features on their phones as requested by the carriers. As a result the only way to buy a Nokia was off contract at full price.




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  #1436167 27-Nov-2015 16:32
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ghce: I am guessing that all the lumia 950's may well be dual sim. What is truly amazing is the lack of clarity from Microsoft regarding some of the basic specs of these phones dual sim being a good example of their apparent disinterest in their own product.


There are different entries in the Microsoft store for single and dual SIM units. What clarity is lacking?

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  #1436257 27-Nov-2015 19:20
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freitasm:
nzrocketman:
nathan: The US Store has DS, and it was always going to be DS

The NZ Store has SS, as that is what the carriers in the region who are launching them want


No Carriers are launching them here


If the phones are available from the Microsoft Store then why say "it's what the carriers in the region..." - it's Microsoft selling those so carriers shouldn't be a factor (only on the models they sell through their own stores).




they're not bringing multiple versions which adds complexity

white ss
white ds
black ss
black ds

etc

if you want DS they are available, but you'll need to parallel import.

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  #1436494 28-Nov-2015 01:19
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http://www.digiparallelimports.co.nz/microsoft-lumia-950-xl-rm1085-black-p-6539.html?cPath=60_21_145

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