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  Reply # 1515780 18-Mar-2016 16:27
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Lumia 930 (parallel imported) downloading Win10 now





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  Reply # 1515788 18-Mar-2016 17:08
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I recently bought the Microsoft Lumia 950 with Windows 10 Mobile.  While enjoying the Windows 10 Mobile experience, it would often crash and reboot itself.  I was using a build from Italy's TIM mobile operator.  I installed Windows Insider and set myself up to get the beta versions of the firmware.  I have found Windows 10 Mobile much more stable since and it hasn't frozen/rebooted once since.  *fingers crossed*


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1515827 18-Mar-2016 18:34
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I am not able to use my Windows 10 mobile 640xl as a mobile hotspot over wifi, I can however use it as an Access Point over Bluetooth with paired windows devices, but can no longer use the Ps vita over the hotspot.

 

I had no problem over WiFi using 8.1.


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  Reply # 1515882 18-Mar-2016 21:34
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Just downloaded to a 920, have a few days next week to see what it does for that (and a 640 thats not updated yet)

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  Reply # 1516132 19-Mar-2016 17:27
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Haven't had any preview stuff on this phone. Now able to access Upgrade Advisor in the Store. NZ 640xl. Still not able to actually update "working with mobile operator and phone manufacturer"

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  Reply # 1516180 19-Mar-2016 19:41
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Win10 on my 930 is a pretty smooth experience. Sadly it exposed my phones faulty mics and some apps can't record voice anymore; not a software issue, known Lumia 930 hardware fault and I'm going to have to get my repaired (for free) by Microsoft.

 

 

 

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  Reply # 1516598 20-Mar-2016 20:12
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W10M preview on my 640 has been a relatively smooth experience. The biggest issue I've had to date is with Edge displaying previews of the pages in the tabbed interface correctly, however when you opened the tab fullscreen the page would be blank. The latest update seems to have fixed the issue.


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  Reply # 1516600 20-Mar-2016 20:14
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roobarb:

 

I am not able to use my Windows 10 mobile 640xl as a mobile hotspot over wifi, I can however use it as an Access Point over Bluetooth with paired windows devices, but can no longer use the Ps vita over the hotspot.

 

I had no problem over WiFi using 8.1.

 

 

 

 

I use the hotspot function on my 640 (non xl) extensively and haven't had any issues. What release version are you running?


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  Reply # 1516613 20-Mar-2016 20:56
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On the 640XL, Version 1511, build 10.0.10586.164

 

If I enable the client to use MS-TCC as a Bluetooth service, it connects but fails to use the network.

 

The only client that can reliably use the Wifi as an access point is another Windows 10 mobile device (Lumia 735 running same version ).

 

The clients can see the Wifi access point and can authenticate, but typically fail at the obtaining IP stage. If they do get an IP they can't actually talk on the net. This was a setup that was happily working on 8.1 ( other clients include windows laptops, PS vita, Linux machines... ).

 

The Lumia 735 itself has a nightmare problem of its own because it is rejected as a USB device; plugging into any windows box gives you "Your last USB device has malfunctioned", this was working on the last preview.

 

 


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  Reply # 1517066 21-Mar-2016 17:12
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roobarb:

 

On the 640XL, Version 1511, build 10.0.10586.164

 

If I enable the client to use MS-TCC as a Bluetooth service, it connects but fails to use the network.

 

The only client that can reliably use the Wifi as an access point is another Windows 10 mobile device (Lumia 735 running same version ).

 

The clients can see the Wifi access point and can authenticate, but typically fail at the obtaining IP stage. If they do get an IP they can't actually talk on the net. This was a setup that was happily working on 8.1 ( other clients include windows laptops, PS vita, Linux machines... ).

 

The Lumia 735 itself has a nightmare problem of its own because it is rejected as a USB device; plugging into any windows box gives you "Your last USB device has malfunctioned", this was working on the last preview.

 

 

 

 

I have a 640XL, not locked to a Service provider, but with a Vodafone sim.  Do I have to wait for Vodafone to approve the Win 10 upgrade? 

 

I've searched the store for the upgrade/update adviser, but all I get is the computer/laptop/tablet upgrade adviser, and when I run phone update in the setting menu it says my phone is already up to date with Windows 8.1.

 

I tried searching/reading online on how to update phones to Windows 10, some of the articles say I need to wait for for my service provider to approve it, others say I can do it straight away without waiting for for my service provider to approve it.  

 

I also have a 640 with no sim card, can this be updated to Win 10 without a sim card?

 

 


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  Reply # 1517071 21-Mar-2016 17:28
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In some countries the phone is tied to carrier, in others just to country or region.

 

What does Settings/System/About say?

 

My 735 is generic UK/IE, my 640XL is HK.

 

 


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  Reply # 1517097 21-Mar-2016 17:54
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roobarb:

 

In some countries the phone is tied to carrier, in others just to country or region.

 

What does Settings/System/About say?

 

My 735 is generic UK/IE, my 640XL is HK.

 

 

 

 

Settings/System/about doesnt have any service provider or country information at all.

 

The region setting say New Zealand.

 

Finally got the MS upgrade adviser app, had to download an app to find and install it.

 

It tells me my phones (the 640xl and 640 can be upgraded to win 10 when it's available.

 

Guess I'll have to wait a year or so for Vodafone to make it available. 


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  Reply # 1517112 21-Mar-2016 18:01
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Yes you can update without a sim.

But I believe we've actually got 2 parallel threads running here.

If you join the MS insider program you can then access the update/upgrade advisor app in the Store. And having done that you can, likely, get a win 10 release on your device. (Even if they're not on the current official release list.

Currently looks like that is release 10.0.10586.164 on Both the 640xl & 820 I have. Neither have sims fitted.

The other part of this thread is about Network releases.
These will likely be released thru the original network providers so will depend on your phone branding, not what SIM is in it.
Some locally supplied devices, and parallel imported ones will probably get official releases based on their regional variant.

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  Reply # 1517247 21-Mar-2016 21:36
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oxnsox: Yes you can update without a sim.

But I believe we've actually got 2 parallel threads running here.

If you join the MS insider program you can then access the update/upgrade advisor app in the Store. And having done that you can, likely, get a win 10 release on your device. (Even if they're not on the current official release list.

Currently looks like that is release 10.0.10586.164 on Both the 640xl & 820 I have. Neither have sims fitted.

The other part of this thread is about Network releases.
These will likely be released thru the original network providers so will depend on your phone branding, not what SIM is in it.
Some locally supplied devices, and parallel imported ones will probably get official releases based on their regional variant.

 

Thanks for that info...

 

The 640 was bought from Vodafone, and is a Vodafone locked/branded phone, does mean I'll have to wait for Vodafone to approve Windows 10?

 

I got the 640XL from Harvey Normans but it's not locked/branded to any service provider, so I guess I'll have to wait for Microsoft to release Windows 10 mobile in New Zealand .

 

 


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  Reply # 1517271 21-Mar-2016 22:16
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If you look under Extras and Info
for your phone you will find:
Manufacturers name: an RM number,
this is the model and sub model.

Mobile Operator: this associates with the carrier firmware variations, and likely dictates who determines your firmware update

Check your devices and see if three Mobile Operator is the same on both devices.


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