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  Reply # 881340 20-Aug-2013 08:28
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KiwiNZ: Has there been any word from SkyTV with regards to Xbox One?
I've not seen any, and I'm not hopeful.  Doing a deal with a TV provider in a far flung location with only a few users hasn't been MSs priority in the past. :(




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  Reply # 881345 20-Aug-2013 08:37
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gehenna: I'm still an Xbox bigot. Until it does me wrong it's my platform of choice.


And, this is how it works.  In the old days it was amiga vs atari ST and people would defend their patch to the end.     

I may yet buy both but at the moment my choice is for PS4 purely based on my opinion the ps3 is better than xbox 360.   Interesting to read the comments here. 

One thing though, I think game makers are forgetting the art of making games fun.    It is similar to modern movies where directors think special effects compensates for boring stories.    Some of the best games were ones where you tended to use your imagination to fill in the gaps. 

With the PS3, I only have 5-10 games that were really worth owning .  There are so many 'blah' level grinding games out there.  I expect the xbox one/ps4 will be no different but it appears online gaming is where the action is but I never totally got into that.

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  Reply # 881352 20-Aug-2013 08:45
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qyiet:
KiwiNZ: Has there been any word from SkyTV with regards to Xbox One?
I've not seen any, and I'm not hopeful.  Doing a deal with a TV provider in a far flung location with only a few users hasn't been MSs priority in the past. :(


You can do HDMI pass through yes/no ?




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  Reply # 881398 20-Aug-2013 09:51
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HDMI passthrough yes but I don't think MS would do a Sky deal anyway as Freeview is FTA TV so they would be the best to go for if doing any deals as that's a broader market. Not saying Sky isn't best for the consumer (and I dislike them passionately) but why limit to a 500k user base when you can get 3-4 million.

Ultimately passthrough is how I am picking it will be for most if not the whole time of this next gen for us here in NZ and hey Xbox is already Media Centre for it's base which links with your pc connection so if you've got HTPC setup you can already access Media Centre anyway.

Have to agre on the comments on games worth playing. I stilll enjoy longevity in my games especially when paying around 100 for a lot of them. Simply put a 6 - 8 hour sinlge player campaign is a joke and although they can DLC to death games like Halo and CoD for more bucks I seldom bother with games that won't come with a solid campaign as well.

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  Reply # 881467 20-Aug-2013 11:27
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qyiet:
jfanning: what stripping of the TV Guides from PlayTV? I still have the tv guide on my PlayTV
Initially the TV guide for playTV was downloadable for some time into the future.  That stopped, all you could get was the OTA TV Guide that freeview broadcast.  I didn't replace the playTV after it got stolen from my house, so it may have been reinstated, however I would be surprised if it had.


I don't believe they are using the OTA one

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  Reply # 881588 20-Aug-2013 15:18
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surfisup1000: 

One thing though, I think game makers are forgetting the art of making games fun.    It is similar to modern movies where directors think special effects compensates for boring stories.    Some of the best games were ones where you tended to use your imagination to fill in the gaps. 

With the PS3, I only have 5-10 games that were really worth owning .  There are so many 'blah' level grinding games out there.  I expect the xbox one/ps4 will be no different but it appears online gaming is where the action is but I never totally got into that.


I agree with this. I only have a couple of friends I play online with and when I do it's cool but not my priority and we aren't always online together, so game trends like drive club worry me a little. I could be wrong about the game but it seems very much a community based game and if you want to cruise and race on your own you seem out of luck. I know then I should not buy it but it seems increasingly games are becoming like this and forgetting some people like to just play single player and get away from always on and sharing etc... Oh how I yearn for the days of crowding around the cathode ray playing Gain Ground, Wonderboy, Bonanza Bros etc...

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  Reply # 881967 21-Aug-2013 08:32
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ps4 release date: 29november for Europe. does that include us? :P

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  Reply # 881983 21-Aug-2013 09:02
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29th is our date I believe as that's the date for all non US markets not just Europe (or at least that what I've gotten from the news).

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  Reply # 881987 21-Aug-2013 09:18
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surfisup1000:
With the PS3, I only have 5-10 games that were really worth owning .  There are so many 'blah' level grinding games out there.  I expect the xbox one/ps4 will be no different but it appears online gaming is where the action is but I never totally got into that.


Isn't that really personal preference more that anything?  I think I own around 70 PS3 games, and there are only a couple I wish I hadn't purchased

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  Reply # 881996 21-Aug-2013 09:37
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jfanning:
surfisup1000:
With the PS3, I only have 5-10 games that were really worth owning .  There are so many 'blah' level grinding games out there.  I expect the xbox one/ps4 will be no different but it appears online gaming is where the action is but I never totally got into that.


Isn't that really personal preference more that anything?  I think I own around 70 PS3 games, and there are only a couple I wish I hadn't purchased


Totally agree.

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  Reply # 882232 21-Aug-2013 15:42
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For me, I was hoping the PS3 would be the home entertainment hub everyone was talking about say 5 years ago. In practise I've found the PS3 frustratingly picky about file formats, and how you navigate to files etc. The way around this is to stream to it, but that requires another computer and kinda takes away from the one machine to do it all angle I was hoping for. The lacklustre PlayTV implementation just killed that angle for me.

So, I was kinda hoping to get a machine that could do all that. I guess one that would do what I thought the PS3 was going to do. Apps will be a big part of it. TVNZ on demand and TV3 on demand etc, the weather, youtube (one that plays a youtube clip without constantly buffering the begebers out of it etc). Something that lets you import a playlist rather than have to use a hand controller to create it, and lets you add different visualisations like winamp did 10 years ago...

Realistically TV integration should be there, but I don't see that really coming nicely after the PlayTV attempt. Having the PVR as this app that took a minute to load just killed that user interaction experience. Maybe Xbox will do it's media centre share nicer.

I guess I'm saying that I'm hoping one of these boxes will be an entertainment hub over and above just a gaming platform.

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  Reply # 882250 21-Aug-2013 16:11
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Well I can say Jaxson has pretty much nailed it for a lot of people really. Not just Playstation though the Xbox experience although I wouldn't consider changing I can honestly say has not been the whole home entertainment system. This i think stems a lot from how we're such a small market that it's just not possible or viable to give us the same experience that those in larger markets get.

I'm hopeful that this will change with the new consoles as so much has changed since the last iterations came out I'd like to think that actually delivering what they're marketing will be easier & possibly actually happen.

It will be a long few months wait to find out if we get a budget console from either party (budget in terms of what markets like the USA will get not as in cheaply made) :-)


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  Reply # 882330 21-Aug-2013 18:05
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Jaxson: For me, I was hoping the PS3 would be the home entertainment hub everyone was talking about say 5 years ago. In practise I've found the PS3 frustratingly picky about file formats, and how you navigate to files etc. The way around this is to stream to it, but that requires another computer and kinda takes away from the one machine to do it all angle I was hoping for. The lacklustre PlayTV implementation just killed that angle for me.

So, I was kinda hoping to get a machine that could do all that. I guess one that would do what I thought the PS3 was going to do. Apps will be a big part of it. TVNZ on demand and TV3 on demand etc, the weather, youtube (one that plays a youtube clip without constantly buffering the begebers out of it etc). Something that lets you import a playlist rather than have to use a hand controller to create it, and lets you add different visualisations like winamp did 10 years ago...

Realistically TV integration should be there, but I don't see that really coming nicely after the PlayTV attempt. Having the PVR as this app that took a minute to load just killed that user interaction experience. Maybe Xbox will do it's media centre share nicer.

I guess I'm saying that I'm hoping one of these boxes will be an entertainment hub over and above just a gaming platform.


Not having put too much thought in to it but I wonder why Sony can't open the console up to being very customisable so you can do things like you suggest? It wouldn't hurt their core business of gaming because they could still keep that side locked down (which would not bother me) and allow an app store so people can develop youtube, facebook, tvnz, streaming etc apps.

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  Reply # 882406 21-Aug-2013 20:30
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http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/123014-sony-buy-a-ps3-title-get-the-ps4-download-discounted-includes-cod-ghosts-watch-dogs-and-more

Do you guys think the above offer will be available for us?? :P

I feel like how cartman felt about the wii:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raTts-iGixU

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  Reply # 882901 22-Aug-2013 16:38
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I consider the PS3 to be an excellent Entertainment and gaming console. It has one of the best Blu-Ray players PERIOD, which is upgraded regularly. Ok it doesn't support that many formats out of the box, but I have my media on my PC and stream it to the PS3 via products like tversity and Mezzmo, with no problems whatsoever.

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