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  #882908 22-Aug-2013 16:46
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jtbthatsme: HDMI passthrough yes but I don't think MS would do a Sky deal anyway as Freeview is FTA TV so they would be the best to go for if doing any deals as that's a broader market. Not saying Sky isn't best for the consumer (and I dislike them passionately) but why limit to a 500k user base when you can get 3-4 million.

Ultimately passthrough is how I am picking it will be for most if not the whole time of this next gen for us here in NZ and hey Xbox is already Media Centre for it's base which links with your pc connection so if you've got HTPC setup you can already access Media Centre anyway.

Have to agre on the comments on games worth playing. I stilll enjoy longevity in my games especially when paying around 100 for a lot of them. Simply put a 6 - 8 hour sinlge player campaign is a joke and although they can DLC to death games like Halo and CoD for more bucks I seldom bother with games that won't come with a solid campaign as well.


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  #882926 22-Aug-2013 17:07
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nathan: 50% of NZ households subscribe to Sky TV

FWIW
As a non sky (or any broadcast TV viewer) I just discovered that Sky Basic is $46/month.   There is a scary amount of cash going into what I consider to be a crappy service.  No wonder the soccer guys at work thought the Premier League Pass was a  good deal... Sky has been screwing them. 

I'll toddle off back to my Netflix now :)




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  #882928 22-Aug-2013 17:08
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Figures released recently have them around 520k (read in a article related to the EPL) so yes about what you & I said.



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  #887111 30-Aug-2013 16:07
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Hmm interesting read. It doesn't actually say the voice commands won't work in NZ (or Australia) but what amazes me is why they can't simply add a learn your speech tutorial such as get the person to say some catch phrases to learn their particular accent for the countries that speak common languages eg English.

I'd still think that it'll work in NZ as I've never had difficulty with the Kinect on my current console understanding commands with exception to background noise levels.

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  #887726 1-Sep-2013 10:23
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So anyone know if anywhere still has day 1 ps4 preorders available?

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  #887756 1-Sep-2013 13:30
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I was just giving some thought to a couple of the features that were mentioned for the Xbox one.

The HDMI pass-through - does this also work when the Xbox is in standby mode and will it support HD Sound pass-through?

Also, when I was looking at the Microsoft Site I got the impression that this feature might actually just be an implementation of the CEC standard Remote Control Pass-through, or maybe it is both - I hope.

I was wondering if it would support two monitors/TVs - on the principle that would probably be required if one is gaming and watching TV at the same time.

Also, does it have Bluetooth - so I can connect a mouse and keyboard. The controller might be awesome, but I prefer a keyboard when using Skype and playing some games.

Finally, will the TV support actually support Freeview, I use Media Centre Win 7 / Win 8 and have never been able to get the guide to work properly (I can only see what is currently on, not what might be on tomorrow - and need to change to the channel to get the guide to update for it). '

I find it interesting that they can't support different countries straight away. At least it would be useful if one could do some voice training for the device instead of trying to learn to speak with a foreign accent :)




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  #887761 1-Sep-2013 13:34
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Certainly no bluetooth in the Xbox One. It uses WiFi direct in the console and the controller. Data throughput via WiFi direct is much higher, better range and lower latency in comparison to bluetooth.




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  #887897 1-Sep-2013 19:11
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billgates: Certainly no bluetooth in the Xbox One. It uses WiFi direct in the console and the controller. Data throughput via WiFi direct is much higher, better range and lower latency in comparison to bluetooth.


That may be so, but how many wifi keyboards and mice are there that last 6 months before needing to be charged.




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  #887899 1-Sep-2013 19:14
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TwoSeven:
That may be so, but how many wifi keyboards and mice are there that last 6 months before needing to be charged.


You cannot connect a mice to game consoles so that's out of the question. As for a keyboard, if you have a tablet or smartphone then you load the free SmartGlass app to use the device as a keyboard/mice for web browsing, typing etc.




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  #887930 1-Sep-2013 20:10
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billgates:
TwoSeven:
That may be so, but how many wifi keyboards and mice are there that last 6 months before needing to be charged.


You cannot connect a mice to game consoles so that's out of the question. As for a keyboard, if you have a tablet or smartphone then you load the free SmartGlass app to use the device as a keyboard/mice for web browsing, typing etc.


I think you're jumping the gun. First of all you could happily connect a mouse and keyboard to a PS3 (not sure about an Xbox) and use them in the web browser etc. and you could even play a game or two. I know you could at least play Unreal Tournament 3 with them. Second, remember these are new consoles they might have plenty of mouse/keyboard support. Though very unlikely.

TBH I always thought both companies failed a bit with their motion controls. Why oh why could I not use the Move controller like a mouse when using PS's web browser and likewise for Kinect I should be able to use it through all the menu's. I would hope this is something they think about but it's probably just wishful thinking.

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  #888229 2-Sep-2013 12:25
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I think the issue is that they are not 'just consoles' anymore. With an OS being built in and the ability to run various types of apps, I see the need to support a keyboard. At least, unless one is perfectly happy spending hours typing information in letter by letter using a controller.




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You can plug a wired USB keyboard into the current gen consoles and it works but it defeats the purpose of what the machine is for and how it's intended to be used. Wireless, sit at distance, no clunky OS stuff. Your tablet/smartphone is meant to be the second screen used as a mouse and keyboard.




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  #888258 2-Sep-2013 12:59
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billgates: You can plug a wired USB keyboard..
or any of those wireless USB dongle things that Logitech love.




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  #888259 2-Sep-2013 13:05
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You can use wireless bluetooth mice and keyboards with the PS3. Which I think was TwoSeven's original point. Bluetooth is an advantage.

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