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Topic # 133583 27-Oct-2013 11:29
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Okay so I am a noob when it comes to PC's which doesn't help when I am looking at buying one...  Basically I want one for general internet use, and occasional gaming (minecraft).
I have been researching a bit lately and one day I would like to build my own but for now I just want something to get me on my way!  So here's an offer I have been given:

GAMING PC - 19inch lcd, microsoft wireless keyboard and mouse Antec Case
AMD 6 core cpu
8gig ddr3 ram
GTX460 1gb graphics
60gig solid state HDD
1TB HDD $800.00 ONO.

To me this seems like an okay deal.  What do you think? Any help is appreciated!     

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  Reply # 922402 27-Oct-2013 11:59
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Be more exact on the cpu?
Ram ddr what?




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  Reply # 922405 27-Oct-2013 12:09
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What I listed above is all the information I have at the moment.  I have messaged the guy asking for more specific info

 
 
 
 




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  Reply # 922419 27-Oct-2013 12:33
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The CPU is an AMD Phenom 2 1090T and the RAM is Kingston Hyperx 1600mhz 8gb

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  Reply # 922473 27-Oct-2013 14:46
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The CPU is good, see chart here - http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-5.html - RAM should be OK - is the system new or second hand?

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  Reply # 922490 27-Oct-2013 15:34
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To me that seems a bit expensive. I would of thought it would be closer to $400, although I might be wrong.  Trademe prices are pretty rediculous sometimes though.

Cheapest place to buy used computer parts is this forum here:
http://www.gpforums.co.nz/forum/Buy-Sell-Trade/Computers-Parts/?s=

^ I would check above forum and price out a similar system and see what it costs...

http://www.gpforums.co.nz/forum/Modding-Overclocking/?s=
^ Also If you repost in this forum I think you will get a lot of feedback on if it is a good deal

You should probably post a wanted to buy complete system post in the BST subforum with your budget.

To get an idea of what things sell for, here is a complete system for $260
http://www.gpforums.co.nz/thread/475390/?s=

PS.  I think you might not have access to the BST subforum, so I can make a post on your behalf if you wish, if you let me know your budget.




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  Reply # 922503 27-Oct-2013 15:38
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I think thats a decent deal :)

Not too sure on the graphiccs though

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  Reply # 922534 27-Oct-2013 16:33
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kiwijunglist: To me that seems a bit expensive. I would of thought it would be closer to $400, although I might be wrong.  Trademe prices are pretty rediculous sometimes though.

Cheapest place to buy used computer parts is this forum here:
http://www.gpforums.co.nz/forum/Buy-Sell-Trade/Computers-Parts/?s=

^ I would check above forum and price out a similar system and see what it costs...

http://www.gpforums.co.nz/forum/Modding-Overclocking/?s=
^ Also If you repost in this forum I think you will get a lot of feedback on if it is a good deal

You should probably post a wanted to buy complete system post in the BST subforum with your budget.

To get an idea of what things sell for, here is a complete system for $260
http://www.gpforums.co.nz/thread/475390/?s=

PS.  I think you might not have access to the BST subforum, so I can make a post on your behalf if you wish, if you let me know your budget.


your prices sound crazy cheap.

a 19 inch monitor alone is going to be circa $150, so god knows what sort of crappy system you can buy for only $260 for everything.

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  Reply # 922587 27-Oct-2013 18:38
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A 2nd hand 19" LCD monitor can be bought for $40-80 (or even less) If your buying as part of a package expect price to be on the lower end.




HTPC: Intel i3-2100 / 12GB RAM / AMD HD7750 / 480 GB SSD / 58TB Storage / MediaPortal / MadVR / Win10
AVR: Pioneer Elite SC-LX87 220W 9.2 Ch AVR
Speakers: Wharfedale Jade 7 Fronts / Jade 2c Center / Jade 5 Rears
Subs: iNuke 3000dsp 3000W proamp with 4x 15" JBL Sealed Subs
Display: Samsung 60" UA60H6400 LCD TV
Accessories: Gefen HDMI Detective with splitter


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  Reply # 922591 27-Oct-2013 18:44
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 god knows what sort of crappy system you can buy for only $260 for everything.


CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 @ 3.16GHz
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Ultra 120 with Notcua Fan 
RAM: OCZ Reaper 2GB DDR2-1066 Dual-Channel DDR2 (OCZ2RPR10661G)
Motherboard: Asus P5E
Graphics: Sapphire Toxic ATI Radeon HD 4850, 512MB DDR3 
Hard Drives: Western Digital Raptor 74GB (WD740ADFD-00NLR5)
Hard Drives: Seagate Barracuda 400GB Seagate (ST3400832AS)
Optical Drive: LiteOn DVD Writer
Audio: Creative Audigy2
PSU: Enermax ModU82+ 620W
Case: Lian Li V1000A

$260

Add monitor comes to $300ish.  e8500 is really overclockable cpu. can get them up to 4GHz if they have a good cooler (like this one does).

PS: I'm not suggesting that the OP buy this computer, I am just answering your question as to what sort of 'crappy' system you can get for $260.




HTPC: Intel i3-2100 / 12GB RAM / AMD HD7750 / 480 GB SSD / 58TB Storage / MediaPortal / MadVR / Win10
AVR: Pioneer Elite SC-LX87 220W 9.2 Ch AVR
Speakers: Wharfedale Jade 7 Fronts / Jade 2c Center / Jade 5 Rears
Subs: iNuke 3000dsp 3000W proamp with 4x 15" JBL Sealed Subs
Display: Samsung 60" UA60H6400 LCD TV
Accessories: Gefen HDMI Detective with splitter


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  Reply # 922595 27-Oct-2013 18:48
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I'm joining gpforums!




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  Reply # 922902 28-Oct-2013 09:53
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kiwijunglist: A 2nd hand 19" LCD monitor can be bought for $40-80 (or even less) If your buying as part of a package expect price to be on the lower end.


Well if we're talking second hand, then second hand computers can be picked up for virtually nothing if they are old enough.

I assumed he wanted a new one.

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  Reply # 922909 28-Oct-2013 10:06
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Look at the graphics card listed - it's GTX-460 (from 2010), it's unlikely to be a brand new PC.

I assumed that it is a second hand PC, and if it was sold "new" I would be highly suspicious that some of the components are infact second hand. For a second hand PC, it doesn't look like a great deal to me and I think you might get more for $800 if you shopped around. (Especially if you are pre-pared to buy a couple of the parts separately).  If it is a mix of 2nd hand and brand new then it might be a fair price.




HTPC: Intel i3-2100 / 12GB RAM / AMD HD7750 / 480 GB SSD / 58TB Storage / MediaPortal / MadVR / Win10
AVR: Pioneer Elite SC-LX87 220W 9.2 Ch AVR
Speakers: Wharfedale Jade 7 Fronts / Jade 2c Center / Jade 5 Rears
Subs: iNuke 3000dsp 3000W proamp with 4x 15" JBL Sealed Subs
Display: Samsung 60" UA60H6400 LCD TV
Accessories: Gefen HDMI Detective with splitter


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  Reply # 922927 28-Oct-2013 10:42
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I would definately go for a PC with a better graphics card, if you're looking to play any new games or if you're interested in any sort of designing

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  Reply # 922933 28-Oct-2013 10:51
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kiwijunglist has found an excellent deal for you which would save you money over the good deal you found.

You can also meet your requirements with a $300 PC from Trade Me because Minecraft and browsing are both low-end. If you're not planning to play anything more resource-hungry then why spend another $500.

 

Minecraft Minimum Requirements:

 

  • CPU : Intel P4 or its AMD Equivalent (AMD K7)
  • RAM : 2GB
  • GPU : Intel GMA 950 or AMD Equivalent with OpenGL 2.1 Support
  • HDD : At least 100MB for Game Core and Sound Files
Recommended Requirements:

 

  • CPU : Intel Pentium D or AMD Athlon 64 (K8) 2.6 GHz
  • RAM : 4GB
  • GPU : GeForce 6xxx or ATI Radeon 9xxx and up with OpenGL 2.1 Support (Excluding Integrated Chipsets)
  • HDD : 150MB

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  Reply # 922965 28-Oct-2013 11:32
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I'd definitely be looking for much better specs than that at $800 second hand. And like kiwijunglist I'd be suspicious if that's being sold as "new"

gpforums BST asre well worth keeping an eye on if you have access. I also try to list things on the offers and wanted here at GZ too, so you could put up a WTB there and see what people have. I seem to remember someone selling an i5 HTPC (which was a really bloody good system) for $600 not that long ago. Remember generally keyboards\mice\screens are pretty easy to find and cheap so even if you just look for a tower you can add to it as needed.



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