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garvani
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  #120146 1-Apr-2008 11:33
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I was a xbox360 fanboy.. had a 360elite then realised i had brought the wrong system for the aforementioned reasons.. Found a guy on trademe and did a straight swap for a 40gb ps3 and cod4.. best descion ive made in a long time..

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  #120158 1-Apr-2008 11:53
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ictgeeknz: Can any of you PS3 owners answer my Windows Media / crossfading question please?


I don't use WMP with my PS3 so sorry, I can't answer this. Are crossfading, album art and star ratings really that important? seem like small potatoes compared to the features we've been discussing.

Unfortunately there was always gona be fights and fanboyism with this thread, you know, boys and their toys.

Garvani - Good choice, did the same myself with my original core 360, and I was so lucky - 2 weeks after selling it the buyer oomplained because it got RROD! bad luck for him. no such problems with my new 360 elite but I still hardly use it compared to my PS3. I still believe 360 has some stand-out features but in the end PS3 just has more.

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  #120161 1-Apr-2008 12:05
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The biggest 360 attraction for me is the online play. I've found the graphical differences between the two consoles to be negligible at best and my main interest in consoles is for the gaming, all the other stuff is nice but not really a priority for me.

But every game purchase I make is influenced by the online aspects of the title, which is why, depsite the rave reviews, I've never been able to get into the likes of Bioshock.

Has anyone experienced the online features of both consoles enough to make an objective comparison? I know PS3 online is free but I dont think the $80 a year that Xbox charges is unreasonable so cost isn't really an issue for me.

More interested in how the respective online environments compare in terms of ease of use, stability etc.



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#120163 1-Apr-2008 12:08
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dnb4life:

I don't use WMP with my PS3 so sorry, I can't answer this. Are crossfading, album art and star ratings really that important? seem like small potatoes compared to the features we've been discussing.



Since the PS3 offers media extender capabilities, yes it would be nice to know if it can do this.

So what you're saying is, you haven't explored all the features of your beloved PS3?

You disappoint me, I was hoping you could convince me to switch sides...  Tongue out







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  #120165 1-Apr-2008 12:12
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ictgeeknz:

I have used WMP through network on my PS3, and I don't understand that cross... thing (still a n00b) but no album art sorry - it is very similar to the screen in WMP where you can choose the different effects for the song while it's playing. One is pretty awesome where you've got an aerial view of earth - random though but hey :)







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  #120166 1-Apr-2008 12:21
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Vindaloo: I had a 360 for about 5 months.. and have had a ps3 for about 3 months..
The Psn network was a joke for a long time but is getting better with patch's and upgrades. There is a store redesign happening this month, which will improve purchasing content etc.
With gaming i only have cod4 for online play, and it plays excatly the same online as it did on my 360. Stability is fine, dosnt drop out unless the host quits. Ping's are fine, dont often lag unless connected to a US host. There are improvements to be made to PSN however, need the ability to join friends games without a invite, at the moment its a bloody joke.. Friend sends an invite which you dont get till the game your in finish's by that time you click join, you find that the server is now full, then it drops you back to the menu. there is no way to join a friends game without them inviting you first.
Being able to find games on ping/location would be nice to but this is just a cod4 thing. In game xmb is sorely missed too, but this has been thrashed enough in forums

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#120170 1-Apr-2008 12:34
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pebbles: ictgeeknz:

I have used WMP through network on my PS3, and I don't understand that cross... thing (still a n00b) but no album art sorry - it is very similar to the screen in WMP where you can choose the different effects for the song while it's playing. One is pretty awesome where you've got an aerial view of earth - random though but hey :)


Good for you, on trying out the networking features!  Crossfading is the gapless playback between songs.

I suspect, that the album art probably shows up if you've ripped a CD to the PS3 hard drive?

I think I read that the PS3 grabs metadata from All Media Guide (just as Windows Media Player does).









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  #120176 1-Apr-2008 12:44
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I completely agree about Bioshock, Amazing graphics and a very cool story but no online? pffft.

I've played online for both and i would say 360 has the advantage. Better friends setup for sure. However I don't think that counts for much seeing as PS3 is free and Xbox is $80/year. Yes, it's not a lot of money but it adds up and people already pay a fortune just to buy a console. I'm getting a bit sick of these extra add-on charges these days. I had to buy another controller, 2 rechargable battery packs and the remote and that's before I even thought about games.

So what you're saying is, you haven't explored all the features of your beloved PS3?

You disappoint me, I was hoping you could convince me to switch sides...  Tongue out


I'd have to say, of all the features to explore those would be near the bottom of my list. I don't often feel the need to use my PS3 or 360 to stream music as I have a pimpin sound card for my production so it sounds much better straight from my computer to stereo anyway. I'm not a fan of crossfading, album art or star ratings as i don't use any of them so like i said they're small potatoes.

you want convincing? - bluray dvd, smaller, lighter, fully wireless controllers that improve with firmware upgrades, divx3 and up, free online gaming, don't have to buy battery packs for ps3 controllers as batteries are built in, HDMI 1.3, better build quality, no huge brick power supply, sixaxis motion sensitivity, more exclusive games, no 16% failure rate, released later. The big one for me would be the fact that judging by past experience the PS3 will still be on the shelves long after Sonys new console launches and Microsoft dumps the 360 and brings out its newer console. sustainability I would call it.

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  #120179 1-Apr-2008 12:48
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Oh! ok, then it transitions smoothly :) the first time was stupid setting it up as you actually have to enable it in systems and this round about stuff, but once you do it the first time WMP on your computer automatically asks if you want to keep your settings (which is allowing anyone on the network to access files etc) and then once it's open on computer, the PS3 will find it...







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#120181 1-Apr-2008 12:55
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dnb4life:
you want convincing?


LOL. I think you're taking this discussion way too seriously... for all of us!







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dnb4life:

you want convincing? - bluray dvd, smaller, lighter, fully wireless controllers that improve with firmware upgrades, divx3 and up, free online gaming, don't have to buy battery packs for ps3 controllers as batteries are built in, HDMI 1.3, better build quality, no huge brick power supply, sixaxis motion sensitivity, more exclusive games, no 16% failure rate, released later. The big one for me would be the fact that judging by past experience the PS3 will still be on the shelves long after Sonys new console launches and Microsoft dumps the 360 and brings out its newer console. sustainability I would call it.



Fully agree with all that...

isnt it funny how when ever you see a pic of the PS3 vs 360.. They never include the 360's external power supply.. which is big and ugly..

Also agree that they will still be making PS3 games long after 360 is long and gone..

Just look at PS2.. Still new games coming out for that.. wtf.. haha

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  #120184 1-Apr-2008 13:05
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ictgeeknz: I think you're taking this discussion way too seriously...


Yeah, while you're playing the fool and still thinking you actually know anything I happen to be serious about my gaming. You asked for convincing so you got it. Like I've already previously stated, if you actually read the forum properly the first time round I wouldn't be forced to repeat myself.

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  #120187 1-Apr-2008 13:11
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garvani: Vindaloo: I had a 360 for about 5 months.. and have had a ps3 for about 3 months..
The Psn network was a joke for a long time but is getting better with patch's and upgrades. There is a store redesign happening this month, which will improve purchasing content etc.
With gaming i only have cod4 for online play, and it plays excatly the same online as it did on my 360. Stability is fine, dosnt drop out unless the host quits. Ping's are fine, dont often lag unless connected to a US host. There are improvements to be made to PSN however, need the ability to join friends games without a invite, at the moment its a bloody joke.. Friend sends an invite which you dont get till the game your in finish's by that time you click join, you find that the server is now full, then it drops you back to the menu. there is no way to join a friends game without them inviting you first.
Being able to find games on ping/location would be nice to but this is just a cod4 thing. In game xmb is sorely missed too, but this has been thrashed enough in forums


Thanks garvani. Sounds like they still have a few teething problems with their online functions. Xbox live is by no means perfect but they appear to have the wood over Sony for the time being.

Did you notice if there were more/less people playing COD4 on PSN compared to Live? I seem to remember SOCOM was touted as the most popular online console game at one stage so I presume PSN doesnt lack for player numbers?

I dont have any aversion to giving PS3 a go at some stage, but I'll probably stay put for the time being. At least until they sort out their online service and release a killer exclusive FPS title.

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#120191 1-Apr-2008 13:36
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dnb4life:

Yeah, while you're playing the fool and still thinking you actually know anything I happen to be serious about my gaming. You asked for convincing so you got it. Like I've already previously stated, if you actually read the forum properly the first time round I wouldn't be forced to repeat myself.


Not eveyone is a hardcore gamer like you, some us are recreational gamers. Take this into consideration before attacking people and their opinions.  Calling me a "fool" and saying I know nothing, is disrespectful...







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Vindalo: In cod4 on 360 it stated how many people were playing online. On the ps3 this feature is missing, so i cant say excatly what the numbers are. However i dont have problems finding games, it may take it 2-3 search's (does it automaticaly) but it will get me a game.. I beleive most of the problems i have with the ps3 are in fact problems with infinity ward, they need to update the game features, proper server browser is all i really need.
Theres no need to wait, its good now and its only going to get better!

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