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  Reply # 2062148 25-Jul-2018 11:12
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Pumpedd:

 

You dont understand google either?

 

 

Go bother someone who cares about your opinions.

 

 





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  Reply # 2062155 25-Jul-2018 11:15
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I have children and internet via default Vodafone router.
Go into parental settings and create boundaries to device access.

Easy.

Lazy parenting.

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  Reply # 2062156 25-Jul-2018 11:16
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CYaBro:

 

We have kids accounts on our windows devices and they don't get access at all until we use the parental controls to allow them an hour or two.

 

Once that's up that's it for the day.
They also don't get to play at all during the week, only on weekends, and only a couple of hours a day at most.

 

They also can't get into the iPad without the passcode.

 

All they want to do though is play Fortnite.

 

It was Roblox before that, and before that Minecraft.

 

 

yeah we had roblox for a while till I saw an article or two about the chat feature being using for grooming, so that went.

 

Minecraft I'm ok with as he can only play with his friends, being his cousins - since i set up the microsoft accounts.

 

 





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  Reply # 2062178 25-Jul-2018 11:47
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Lias:

 

Rock and Roll / Communism / Dungeons & Dragons / Television / Home Taping / Marijuana / Insert other scapegoat / Fortnite is ruining society and destroying our children's lives.. Why won't somebody please think of the children.

 

 

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  Reply # 2062182 25-Jul-2018 11:49
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@surfisup1000 I agree, it's not a simple issue.

 

One thing I see a fair bit is people with no kids, who have all the answers. I can relate to this, because I was a BRILLIANT parent, until I had kids. It's not easy, but it's not something you appreciate (nor what your parents did and sacrificed for you) until you are older and usually after you have kids of your own.

 

I shudder at some of the dumb stuff I used to say to my sister about her kids behaviour. All good in theory but so far from reality that I have apologised many times since.

 

Both of my kids are "good kids", but they will still push the boundarys when it comes to screen time etc.

 

We have a rule in our house that the 3 things need to be done before ANYTHING else, which is toilet, dressed and breakfast. Both kids are required to do 1 lesson on math seeds or reading eggs or similar before they do recreational stuff. But when they are sick, or we are, it's all about survival and those rules can end up being bent.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Since you bring it up, whilst I can understand that and do not have children, what I do get a bit confused by is why the parents of most children I grew up with had no difficulty in imposing boundaries around noise, bed, use of telephones, going out, getting back and so forth, yet so many people of my age who have children appear to find it impossible (usually with weedy excuses) to do the same.

 

Fortunately for both my sanity and theirs, I do not have children to practice on but as I say, I do get a bit confused as to why adults seem so unable to exert control when the adults we grew up under were quite capable of doing so.






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"Only 600 miles to the south, there's a vast city. And here you find civilized man. Civilized man refused to adapt himself to his environment; instead, he adapted his environment to suit him. So he built cities, roads, vehicles, machinery, and he put up power lines to run his labour-saving devices. But somehow he didn't know where to stop. The more he improved his surroundings to make life easier, the more complicated he made it. So now his children are sentenced to 10-15 years of school, just to learn how to survive in this complex and hazardous habitat they were born into. And civilized man, who refused to adapt to his surroundings, now finds he has to adapt and re-adapt every hour of the day to his self-created environment. For instance, if it's Monday and 7:30 comes up, you have to dis-adapt from your domestic surroundings and re-adapt yourself to an entirely different environment. 8:00 means everybody has to look busy. 10:30 means you can stop looking busy for 15 minutes. And then you have to look busy again. And so your day is chopped into pieces, and in each segment of time you adapt to a new set circumstances. No wonder some people go off the rails a bit..."


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  Reply # 2062188 25-Jul-2018 11:53
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DarthKermit:

 

"Only 600 miles to the south, there's a vast city. And here you find civilized man. Civilized man refused to adapt himself to his environment; instead, he adapted his environment to suit him. So he built cities, roads, vehicles, machinery, and he put up power lines to run his labour-saving devices. But somehow he didn't know where to stop. The more he improved his surroundings to make life easier, the more complicated he made it. So now his children are sentenced to 10-15 years of school, just to learn how to survive in this complex and hazardous habitat they were born into. And civilized man, who refused to adapt to his surroundings, now finds he has to adapt and re-adapt every hour of the day to his self-created environment. For instance, if it's Monday and 7:30 comes up, you have to dis-adapt from your domestic surroundings and re-adapt yourself to an entirely different environment. 8:00 means everybody has to look busy. 10:30 means you can stop looking busy for 15 minutes. And then you have to look busy again. And so your day is chopped into pieces, and in each segment of time you adapt to a new set circumstances. No wonder some people go off the rails a bit..."

 

 

 

 

Ha ha! 

 

 

 

Quite right though. I never did understand why, outside work, I simply had to obey the law of the land yet inside work, I had a whole other codex of law to obey drawn up by beige people in HR which prevented me from doing things which were perfectly legal outside the working week...!






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  Reply # 2062249 25-Jul-2018 13:05
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hio77:

While 20% goes somewhat unnoticed, I'm waiting for some of the smaller providers who simply don't have the legroom to quite spread out to handle random 20+% spikes without noticing a hit.




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  Reply # 2062252 25-Jul-2018 13:15
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I must say , the best thing about fortnite is that my 9yr old has learned some really impressive dance moves.

 

Music artists are now saying they should be paid money for dance moves that have been used by fortnite characters.   Tough sell though, they copyrighted their music but never thought to copyright their dance jig  (and is that possible anyways?). 

 

If they are not playing fortnite, they want to be watching videos about fortnite. Minecraft and roblox were pretty big, but i think eclipsed by fortnite 

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 2062278 25-Jul-2018 13:28
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I didn't know what fortnight was until the kids started talking about it. (boys 8,10 and a daughter 13)

 

With most things like Roblox / Minecraft (and now Minecraft LIVE) and now Fortnite and any other craze or fad they pick up from school, I find its best to have a look and have a go with them. I try not to be a "No" parent, but sometimes you have to.

 

I think Fortnite is a bloody good game, a lot of fun, but very very dangerous. Im lucky I have 2 boys so they can alternate turns. I can see how a kid or "cough cough" an adult playing by themselves can get hooked and pulled off into V-Bucks land.

 

Time limits need to be set, boundaries need to be set and if they start to go off the rails, bring it back to just a few hours in the weekends.

 

My kids are not allowed devices or consoles in their bedrooms and we have a communal charging area in the dining room.

 

They are also not allowed to play on a device while it is charging.

 

I find that this regular enforced separation/downtime needs to be pushed by parents as kids are usually unable to successfully regulate this themselves.

 

Just my .02 for how we operate but acknowledge that everyones situations and various coping mechanisms are quite different

 

 


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  Reply # 2062282 25-Jul-2018 13:29
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I know, there's now a thing called flossing and it's not done with the teeth.


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  Reply # 2062287 25-Jul-2018 13:37
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afe66: I have children and internet via default Vodafone router.
Go into parental settings and create boundaries to device access.

Easy.

Lazy parenting.

 

wow, you got kids from Vodafone ?

 

 

 

Yes, everything has a password at our house and if you want access you either need to have done the dishes and been a good boy all day or wait till daddy starts drinking.

 

OTOH I have been amazed at the guile of my son who, for example, would shoulder surf to learn a phone's code, arrange for that phone to 'disappear' then sit up all night using the phone for entertainment.

 

 

 

I've gone through a list of counter moves to defeat his access to devices and the network unless access is explicitly granted.

 

Can the average punter disable YT and NF depending on the hour of the day?

 

I would suggest most people don't know what they need to limit for their kids and/or how to do it with the technology in their homes right now.

 

I think this would be an opportunity for ISPs.


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  Reply # 2062292 25-Jul-2018 13:45
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CYaBro:

 

We have kids accounts on our windows devices and they don't get access at all until we use the parental controls to allow them an hour or two.

 

Once that's up that's it for the day.
They also don't get to play at all during the week, only on weekends, and only a couple of hours a day at most.

 

They also can't get into the iPad without the passcode.

 

All they want to do though is play Fortnite.

 

It was Roblox before that, and before that Minecraft.

 

 

and how many hours do you watch television?


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  Reply # 2062295 25-Jul-2018 13:48
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I think Fortnite is a bloody good game, a lot of fun, but very very dangerous. Im lucky I have 2 boys so they can alternate turns. I can see how a kid or "cough cough" an adult playing by themselves can get hooked and pulled off into V-Bucks land.

 

 

I play it occasionally but prefer my games to be a bit more realistic. Both my daughters (8 and 11) play it, but I refuse to let them spend any money on it just for some dance moves and fancy clothes etc. 

 

I cant talk tho.... I use to pay $30 a month for WoW ;)

 

 





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  Reply # 2062297 25-Jul-2018 13:50
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Pumpedd:

 

CYaBro:

 

We have kids accounts on our windows devices and they don't get access at all until we use the parental controls to allow them an hour or two.

 

Once that's up that's it for the day.
They also don't get to play at all during the week, only on weekends, and only a couple of hours a day at most.

 

They also can't get into the iPad without the passcode.

 

All they want to do though is play Fortnite.

 

It was Roblox before that, and before that Minecraft.

 

 

and how many hours do you watch television?

 

 

Couple of hours at most, in the evenings once kids are in bed.

 

Why?

 

Kids get to watch TV during the week, if they've done their homework etc.

 

That usually ends up being Fortnite videos on Youtube! :)

 

 





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