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#653899 11-Jul-2012 10:30

Modem received and installed. All seems to be OK so far. Performance is good, but lets see if it has improved the stability of the ADSL link.

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#655342 14-Jul-2012 04:12

dclegg: Modem received and installed. All seems to be OK so far. Performance is good, but lets see if it has improved the stability of the ADSL link.

So how are things going? reliable? fast? latency ok? I'm looking at purchasing one but I'd like to hear feedback regarding it first before I go out and buy one.

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#655351 14-Jul-2012 09:12

kawaii:
dclegg: Modem received and installed. All seems to be OK so far. Performance is good, but lets see if it has improved the stability of the ADSL link.

So how are things going? reliable? fast? latency ok? I'm looking at purchasing one but I'd like to hear feedback regarding it first before I go out and buy one.

Performance has been good and, most importantly, reliability has been increased. Looking at the admin interface, I see that the ADSL link has been dropped on occasion, but this has always been seamlessly re-established again. With my old Netgear DGN3500, manual intervention was always required.

Here are the stats as they currently stand:-

Actual ADSL performance seems to fluctuate a bit, with download speeds observed between 8Mbps to 17Mbps. I suspect that is more to do with the input rather than the device itself.

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#655357 14-Jul-2012 09:42

Currently you appear to have the router set up "normally". The primary reason to use a Vigor 120 is so that you can set it into PPPoA Passthrough mode. This means that the is no longer accessible via the web interface, which doesn't appear to be how you have it set up.

After enabling the PPPoA Passthrough you need to set the Extreme to PPPoE with the username/password details of your ISP. This means the Vigor obtains the dsl signal and all authentication/traffic is from the Extreme.

Once set up correctly and connected to the internet the Airport Utility will show the Extreme with the ISP assigned IP address.

HTH

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#655364 14-Jul-2012 09:54

Oldhat: Currently you appear to have the router set up "normally". The primary reason to use a Vigor 120 is so that you can set it into PPPoA Passthrough mode. This means that the is no longer accessible via the web interface, which doesn't appear to be how you have it set up.

After enabling the PPPoA Passthrough you need to set the Extreme to PPPoE with the username/password details of your ISP. This means the Vigor obtains the dsl signal and all authentication/traffic is from the Extreme.

Once set up correctly and connected to the internet the Airport Utility will show the Extreme with the ISP assigned IP address.

HTH

Thanks for the advice. I kept it at its "currently working" configuration, but suspected there was more to be done. I'll have a tinker this weekend and implement your suggested config changes.

Once done, how do I then configure the Vigor in future, if it is no longer accessible via the web interface? Or did I misunderstand what you wrote?

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#655372 14-Jul-2012 10:08

DHCP is still enabled in the Vigor, so if you connect a PC directly you can check/change configuration. The PC just won't connect to the internet (unless of course you set the PC to PPPoE dialup).

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#655375 14-Jul-2012 10:17

Oldhat: DHCP is still enabled in the Vigor, so if you connect a PC directly you can check/change configuration. The PC just won't connect to the internet (unless of course you set the PC to PPPoE dialup).

Cool, that's more than workable. Thanks again.

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#655714 14-Jul-2012 21:07

dolsen:
I was a bit surprised with the feel of the modem, quite light and feels (to me) like cheap plastic. Having said that, it's what inside that counts and all reports on that is that it's good.

Just an update on my modem, it's working well and seems nice and stable.

using the following commands,
ifconfig `nvram get wan_ifname`:0 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0
iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING -o `nvram get wan_ifname` -j MASQUERADE

I can access the modem even though it is in PPPoE Pass-through mode and get the following info (couldn't be bothered getting an image of the stats).

> adsl status
--------------------------- ATU-R Info (hw: annex A, f/w: annex A) -----------
   DSL Modulation          : ADSL2+(G.992.5)
   State                   : SHOWTIME
   DS Actual Rate          : 14999142 bps   US Actual Rate       : 1033125 bps
   DS Attainable Rate      : 14728000 bps   US Attainable Rate   : 1033000 bps
   DS Path Mode            :        Fast    US Path Mode         :        Fast
   DS Interleave Depth     :      160       US Interleave Depth :        1
   NE Current Attenuation :        8 dB    Cur SNR Margin       :       11 dB
   DS actual PSD           :    17. 3 dB    US actual PSD        :    12. 1   dB
   ADSL Firmware Version   : 321311_A
-------------------------------- ATU-C Info ---------------------------------
   Far Current Attenuation :        3 dB    Far SNR Margin       :       12 dB
   CO ITU Version[0]       : 00004244       CO ITU Version[1]    : 0000434d
   DSLAM CHIPSET VENDOR    : < BDCM >

The speed is similar (perhaps a bit faster) than the rta1320v6 it replaced.

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#656291 16-Jul-2012 09:03

Oldhat: Currently you appear to have the router set up "normally". The primary reason to use a Vigor 120 is so that you can set it into PPPoA Passthrough mode. This means that the is no longer accessible via the web interface, which doesn't appear to be how you have it set up.

OK, I've got this working now. But I have one question; Why? What is the advantage of running with this configuration? Considering you lose easy access to the admin interface, what exactly am I getting for this trade off?

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#656695 16-Jul-2012 21:37

dclegg:
Oldhat: Currently you appear to have the router set up "normally". The primary reason to use a Vigor 120 is so that you can set it into PPPoA Passthrough mode. This means that the is no longer accessible via the web interface, which doesn't appear to be how you have it set up.

OK, I've got this working now. But I have one question; Why? What is the advantage of running with this configuration? Considering you lose easy access to the admin interface, what exactly am I getting for this trade off?

The advantage of using the Vigor 120 in PPPoA passthrough mode is that you can have the connection controlled by a separate router with more processing power or features. With a lot of routers you can actually set up access to the web interface in the Vigor even when in passthrough mode- have your cake and eat it too.

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#656789 17-Jul-2012 03:15

I'm a little confused about what everyone is talking about - I'll just be connecting the modem up to my Airport Extreme Base Station and then use Snap as my ISP. I can assume I can do that without all the above taking place? I'm just reading through the documentation - I assume you hook up the modem, setup the necessary adsl settings, put the password/login in the Airport Extreme using PPPoE and the modem takes care of the PPPoE/PPPoA stuff? I've googled and the guides have been pretty few and far between.

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#657331 18-Jul-2012 02:02

kawaii: I'm a little confused about what everyone is talking about - I'll just be connecting the modem up to my Airport Extreme Base Station and then use Snap as my ISP. I can assume I can do that without all the above taking place? I'm just reading through the documentation - I assume you hook up the modem, setup the necessary adsl settings, put the password/login in the Airport Extreme using PPPoE and the modem takes care of the PPPoE/PPPoA stuff? I've googled and the guides have been pretty few and far between.

This is all you need to do

http://www.draytek.net.nz/draytek/support/passthrough/

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#657902 18-Jul-2012 18:19

Ragnor:
kawaii: I'm a little confused about what everyone is talking about - I'll just be connecting the modem up to my Airport Extreme Base Station and then use Snap as my ISP. I can assume I can do that without all the above taking place? I'm just reading through the documentation - I assume you hook up the modem, setup the necessary adsl settings, put the password/login in the Airport Extreme using PPPoE and the modem takes care of the PPPoE/PPPoA stuff? I've googled and the guides have been pretty few and far between.

This is all you need to do

http://www.draytek.net.nz/draytek/support/passthrough/

Awesome - thanks for that.

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#992724 23-Feb-2014 12:14

dclegg:
Oldhat: Currently you appear to have the router set up "normally". The primary reason to use a Vigor 120 is so that you can set it into PPPoA Passthrough mode. This means that the is no longer accessible via the web interface, which doesn't appear to be how you have it set up.

OK, I've got this working now. But I have one question; Why? What is the advantage of running with this configuration? Considering you lose easy access to the admin interface, what exactly am I getting for this trade off?

Just following up on how well the modem and Apple device have been working together. I'm looking at replacing my all in one unit with a Time Capsule and aDSL modem.

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#992742 23-Feb-2014 12:41

dclegg:
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Or look on trademe... even with shipping there a plenty for under $10; both 1320 and 1320v6. Buy 2 or 3, see which one works best and keep the others as spares since they apparently overheat and quit working after 1-2 years. ;-)

Hmm.. not sure I'm keen on a "consumable" modem. I'd be looking for a device that shouldn't need replacing for a few years.

I've had mine for quite a while, but in full bridge mode for most of that time. Whenever I have problems it turns out to be the netgear router, not the dynalink.

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