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Topic # 123462 8-Jul-2013 19:29
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Hi All,

Finally getting around to install my home structured cabling.. Where is the best place for a network 6U Wall Mounted Cabinet? Under the house would be perfect but it's probably a little too dusty & humid at times.

I was thinking in my old laundry which has a hot water cylinder (I was thinking on the outside of the hot water cupboard). There is also the switch board on another wall.

Secondly, what is the advantage of removable backmount / hinged cabinet vs a standard fixed?

See: 

http://www.elive.co.nz/dynamix-6ru-wall-mount-cabinet-cd0695.php 

http://www.elive.co.nz/dynamix-6ru-swing-wall-cabinet-cd2362.php

Thank you!



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  Reply # 851233 8-Jul-2013 21:02
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If you want one of those cabinets then all I can say is get it as high as possible so no one smacks their head. These things are really deceptive in terms of how big they are and you really don't want to catch your head on the corner.

Next, do you like fiddling with your network? if so, I might suggest going for a more basic open frame rack in a cupboard that is easily accesible. For example, in my laundry I built a set of cupboards under the bench to house all my network and AV gear. This is because I like playing with my network and if it was up high I would get annoyed.

As silly as it may sound above a door is a good place quite often. Nice and close to the top plate so easy to get cables down and hidden. Obviously you can't hit your head. Only downside is if you want to work on it, it is in the door way. Again, comes to whether you like tinkering or just want to set and forget.

I would say go for the hinged back. Makes the original install really easy. Makes managing cable so much easier. Only gotcha with this though is that the measurements given don't account for the backmount. So if it's quoted as 450 deep it is actually going to be 500 or 550 depending on which back mount you get.
Dynamix do a 350 deep cabinet which is what I would go for. Really nice and compact cabinet.



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  Reply # 851249 8-Jul-2013 21:48
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Thanks for the reply.. I was planning on mounting the cabinet towards the top and I have the luxury of running network cables above and below (through the hot water cupboard).

You don't happen to know the model of the Dynamix 350mm cabinet do you?


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  Reply # 851396 9-Jul-2013 10:59
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I would suggest not mounting it on a wall that has a bedroom on the other side. In our spare room one can hear a droning noise from the network switch, transmitted through the wall on which the rack is mounted.
I think it is mainly because the power cord at the back of the switch is hard up against the wall.

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  Reply # 851477 9-Jul-2013 12:18
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Skolink: I would suggest not mounting it on a wall that has a bedroom on the other side. In our spare room one can hear a droning noise from the network switch, transmitted through the wall on which the rack is mounted.
I think it is mainly because the power cord at the back of the switch is hard up against the wall.


Do you have a right-angled power cord for it?




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  Reply # 851565 9-Jul-2013 13:55
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DarthKermit:
Skolink: I would suggest not mounting it on a wall that has a bedroom on the other side. In our spare room one can hear a droning noise from the network switch, transmitted through the wall on which the rack is mounted.
I think it is mainly because the power cord at the back of the switch is hard up against the wall.


Do you have a right-angled power cord for it?


Good suggestion, but yes, I discovered that my panel is quite shallow and the switch wouldn't fit with a straight 'jug cord'. I'll have to add some packers behind the mounting brackets to hold the switch forward a bit.

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  Reply # 851597 9-Jul-2013 14:33
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Having considered getting one of these for a client I am very much in the camp of the in wall home structured cabling cabinets now. Those wall mounts are huge and you can fit a lot of gear into the in wall ones (as well as potentially making them flush to the wall).







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  Reply # 851607 9-Jul-2013 14:42
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Hi, where can I find the in-wall ones??



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  Reply # 851700 9-Jul-2013 16:26
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Skolink:
DarthKermit:
Skolink: I would suggest not mounting it on a wall that has a bedroom on the other side. In our spare room one can hear a droning noise from the network switch, transmitted through the wall on which the rack is mounted.
I think it is mainly because the power cord at the back of the switch is hard up against the wall.


Do you have a right-angled power cord for it?


Good suggestion, but yes, I discovered that my panel is quite shallow and the switch wouldn't fit with a straight 'jug cord'. I'll have to add some packers behind the mounting brackets to hold the switch forward a bit.


I have a spare power cable here, if you'd like it. It's about 2 metres long:





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  Reply # 851939 9-Jul-2013 20:39
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DarthKermit:
Skolink:
DarthKermit:
Skolink: I would suggest not mounting it on a wall that has a bedroom on the other side. In our spare room one can hear a droning noise from the network switch, transmitted through the wall on which the rack is mounted.
I think it is mainly because the power cord at the back of the switch is hard up against the wall.


Do you have a right-angled power cord for it?


Good suggestion, but yes, I discovered that my panel is quite shallow and the switch wouldn't fit with a straight 'jug cord'. I'll have to add some packers behind the mounting brackets to hold the switch forward a bit.


I have a spare power cable here, if you'd like it. It's about 2 metres long:



Thanks for the offer, that's most kind of you. What I meant was I have a right-angled cord in it already, because I couldn't mount it without.

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  Reply # 855211 14-Jul-2013 12:45
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Shallow cabinets do limit your choice of switch...

The hinge allows you to connect/configure cables behind the patch panel without having to take out the patch panel. The hinge also means it has to swing AWAY from any wall its next to, and cables have to be routed around the back of cabinet and across the hinge with enough slack to allow it to open. And yeah sharp corners, don't bump your head!

Standard cabinet means that you have to do tidy patching so the panel can be removed without having to unpatch all the ports and remember which ones had phone or special connections when you put them back. Still have sharp corners...

Flush cabinets are designed to terminate all wires from the front, so being tidy makes it easy to get at the connections (still important) because cable routing has to go between the panels instead of behind them. There are TV splitters etc that fit the same cabinet, and you can screw/cabletie the router and switch to the back if theres enough space. Does mean that a bigger size is worthwhile because the router won't fit exactly in where you want it.




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