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  # 994575 26-Feb-2014 06:33
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What about a double radio link via your neigbour on the other side of the road (less trees ?)

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  # 994579 26-Feb-2014 06:37
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You could run one radio off a Cat5/6 cable down the drive to get LOS to the bigger house, looks about 60 to 80 meters. I use a couple of M5 Ubiquiti radios to get to the UFB at my work, one is up the back of my house on about a 50m run using Power Over Ethernet, but thats over about 600m LOS.

 
 
 
 


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  # 994605 26-Feb-2014 08:24
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Mark:About 350M if I went in a straight line, if I went around the borders it would be a fair bit more!  I've love a hard line to the property though :-)

This distance is getting up a bit and wireless would be easier but only if you can get clear LOS (perhaps with second hop as suggested). 

A hard line really needs protection either by burying or some mechanical protection.  We have a 650m long run of external grade cable inside alkathene pipe (both supplied by Telecom years ago) strapped to the fence, as the hill country with tree roots wasn't easy trenching, which has worked fine.  However, costs quickly get prohibitive. 

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  # 994611 26-Feb-2014 08:39
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Line of sight




Location: Dunedin

 


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# 994656 26-Feb-2014 09:05
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InstallerUFB:

A copper (UTP) connection would require additional isolation network equipement at at least one end, as I would expect that the two buildings don't share common Power distribution and earthing. 



Not entirely true. Most ethernet cards have an isolating transformer giving up to 2kv isolation.  There are transformer-less ones about but most have isolating magnetics.  It won't save you if it gets struck by lightning though.

Have a look at these -

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BV-Tech-1-Port-60W-100mbps-Power-Over-Ethernet-Network-Repeater-Adapter-RP101-/261232817009?pt=US_Networking_Boosters_Extenders_Antennas&hash=item3cd2b07371

Or if you want to spend more this -

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Startech-10-100-VDSL2-Ethernet-Extender-Kit-over-Single-Pair-Wire-1km-/350911929067?pt=US_Networking_Boosters_Extenders_Antennas&hash=item51b3fb1aeb



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  # 994660 26-Feb-2014 09:12
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If you are looking to access a NAS then you are already going to want reasonable data rates and possibly symmetrical bandwidth. Looking to the future your requirements will generally only grow.

If you are planning to stay at the properties for a reasonable period of time then perhaps you can justify some level of investment. The best solution is to lay fibre and either trench it or have a protective duct of some sort. This would give you access to gigabit speed easily with lots of expansion. Also worth running a cat5e in the same run so you have access to copper as well.

My experience is that once you start using the connection your bandwidth requirements will quickly grow and you will outstrip the capabilities of your initial installation and either get frustrated or have to start again.

Matt.

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  # 994690 26-Feb-2014 09:56
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woollettg:
InstallerUFB:

A copper (UTP) connection would require additional isolation network equipement at at least one end, as I would expect that the two buildings don't share common Power distribution and earthing. 



Not entirely true. Most ethernet cards have an isolating transformer giving up to 2kv isolation.  There are transformer-less ones about but most have isolating magnetics.  It won't save you if it gets struck by lightning though.

Have a look at these -

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BV-Tech-1-Port-60W-100mbps-Power-Over-Ethernet-Network-Repeater-Adapter-RP101-/261232817009?pt=US_Networking_Boosters_Extenders_Antennas&hash=item3cd2b07371

Or if you want to spend more this -

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Startech-10-100-VDSL2-Ethernet-Extender-Kit-over-Single-Pair-Wire-1km-/350911929067?pt=US_Networking_Boosters_Extenders_Antennas&hash=item51b3fb1aeb




I don't know enough to agree or disagree, but you need to be certain.

Worst case, an electrical fault in one house, makes the cable live at the other. That's a serious risk to your health and equipment.




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  # 994743 26-Feb-2014 10:56
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Is there a phone line between the buildings?

Those VDSL extenders posted above would be the ideal solution if there is. Just need to establish a clean pair between the buildings, whack the VDSL converters on and you are away. You can even send the POTS down with it on the same pair.
Wouldn't recommend though if the cable between houses is open aerial though. That will be rubbish.

Other than that you need to look at sticking a pole up to get clean line of sight. Wireless will be crap without LOS and I would never even try with trees that thick.

Ubiquiti NanoStation (or the new NanoBeam) will absolutely smash a link that short

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  # 995011 26-Feb-2014 18:26
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chevrolux: Is there a phone line between the buildings?

Those VDSL extenders posted above would be the ideal solution if there is. Just need to establish a clean pair between the buildings, whack the VDSL converters on and you are away. You can even send the POTS down with it on the same pair.
Wouldn't recommend though if the cable between houses is open aerial though. That will be rubbish.

Other than that you need to look at sticking a pole up to get clean line of sight. Wireless will be crap without LOS and I would never even try with trees that thick.

Ubiquiti NanoStation (or the new NanoBeam) will absolutely smash a link that short


cut down some trees, turn them into poles and string a cable up over them? :P

but yeah i think if theres a phone line going between the houses you should do the vdsl thing





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  # 995054 26-Feb-2014 19:23
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andrewNZ:
Line of sight


You're gonna kill us all! :P




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