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# 141383 11-Mar-2014 09:37
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So has anyone found a house alarm that is IP based and allows for self monitoring?  IOS/Android Notifications/Email/SMS?

The other bonus would be configurable while in your local lan (or via vpn - less desirable via proprietary cloud) via smart phone app - to set zones, notification options etc.





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  # 1002607 11-Mar-2014 09:57
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also interested in this, but with a API or something so can be used with home automation stuff. z-wave type sensors would be ideal.

there is VIVINT which i've seen a few in my neighbourhood. a sales person came to my house, but was way to pushy and rude. they do ios/android not sure if you can self monitor though.




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  # 1002611 11-Mar-2014 10:13
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reven: also interested in this, but with a API or something so can be used with home automation stuff. z-wave type sensors would be ideal.

there is VIVINT which i've seen a few in my neighbourhood. a sales person came to my house, but was way to pushy and rude. they do ios/android not sure if you can self monitor though.



I did see some honeywell stuff that had android/ios apps...but TBH is probably a feature that should be dropped - a lot of the systems seems to be pretty old school - rs232.  But some (micron in CH do one) that is IP based and you can connect to it via their software but by LAN rather than rs232.  Possible it could be wiretapped to rewrite the app?




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  # 1002615 11-Mar-2014 10:20
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I believe the Satel INTEGRA alarm series can interface directly with the Fibaro HC2 (and I presume the new HC Lite) Z-Wave controller via the ETHM-01 module.

This apparently gives you the ability to monitor all alarm sensors (i.e. PIRs and door/window contacts) as well as the alarm state. You can also remotely arm/disarm.

So you can write rules to switch on lights when motion is detected in the garage for example, without the alarm being armed.

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  # 1002616 11-Mar-2014 10:20
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Paradox are what i use at home and it's on my lan with a smartphone app to control everything :)




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  # 1002618 11-Mar-2014 10:23
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Is there an API to the Paradox? So you could integrate with other home automation systems?

I have a Bosch alarm panel and after buying an extra 'output module' I can monitor the state of the alarm, i.e. armed/disarmed, burglar alarm, fire alarm etc.

I then hacked a spare RF keyfob and can arm/disarm the alarm by shorting the keyfob buttons using a couple of relays on a raspberry pi. A bit of a hack but it works very well and now I have full integration in my HA system (openHAB).



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  # 1002620 11-Mar-2014 10:25
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Beccara: Paradox are what i use at home and it's on my lan with a smartphone app to control everything :)


Hmm I did see one of these in a newly built house.  Seemed to be all bells and whistles.  Might be worth looking into.




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  # 1002621 11-Mar-2014 10:25
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Not sure what your budget is. I recent bought a DIY alarm off Ebay which cost $250 shipped. Came with 3 PIR's and 5 door/window sensors. All wireless (this was a requirement as we have a Lockwood - ie wiring nightmare). Anyway alarm works great, am just tweaking the one PIR sensor as the cats keep tripping it.

The alarm has a SIM slot so can be armed via SMS and also text/calls if the alarm is a set off. My aim is to use the alarm SMS to trigger a WeMo plug to do certain things.

So it will take a bit of hacking and does require an Android device to be "on" in the house to talk to the WeMo.

The alarm also has a 12V output which is activated when the alarm is armed so that could be used for some automation as well.


 
 
 
 


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  # 1002628 11-Mar-2014 10:28
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Have you looked at the c-bus stuff? Clipsal do some alarms for it. I can't recall of the top of my head if they're IP based/capable though, sorry.

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  # 1002639 11-Mar-2014 10:46
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+1 for Paradox

My only issue with them though is the Iphone App/Android App doesn't support push notifications.

Would be nice to get events pushed via a notification.

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  # 1002738 11-Mar-2014 12:30
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I installed a paradox system in my home and it’s working well. I brought a second hand EVO unit off trademe and then brought an ip150 interface to enable the IP access. The cheapest place for the IP150 unit I found was off ebay from some guy in Bulgaria I think at about $169 delivered vs. $250 locally (and they couldn’t supply one at that time).

The IP150 module has a web server where you can log on (local lan & remote access) and set / unset the alarm. You can also see the status of zones, check the local log of events, trigger outputs (I can open the garage door from the web interface) and other things. You can also set up email notifications for when various events occurs (mine will email me if there is an alarm). In addition, you can set it up to poll www.paradoxmyhome.com where you can log on and check the polling status of your alarm or connect to it remotely (if you don’t use dyndns or have your own domain). Paradox do sell an app, however, I haven’t brought it doesn’t seem worth it to me.

An additional advantage of the IP module is you can program the panel using their software with is much easier than through the keypad.

The EVO also supports access control and you can buy an interface (PRT3) for support of home automation using c-bus protocol however I have not used either of these features.

I assume that the common IP monitoring that are being sold are just basic "IP bridges" that are very basic for alarm monitoring and just transform the contact id tones from the phone connection to a network connection without the ability to do all of this. I'm not sure about which monitoring company’s would be set up for the "proper" IP monitoring from this, you would hope a few would be, but, I haven’t contacted any to find out.

Disclaimer – I am not an Alarm technician, nor have I ever been one - I just like to do things myself and can read and understand manuals.


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  # 1002742 11-Mar-2014 12:37
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Do ADT do this decentish paradox IP stuff?

Am needing to get a couple of family members alarms off PSTN monitoring so was asking for details from them on cellular 3g monitoring but have not actually done anything yet. Would like to have IP as a primary with 3g/4g as a backup if the internet is down/cut




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  # 1002758 11-Mar-2014 13:07
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not sure about ADT, but Alarm NZ do Paradox IP from what I have been told

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  # 1002777 11-Mar-2014 13:33
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Just called alarmnz since adt won't change the name on at plan without entering into a new 12 month minimum term.

Adsl with 3g backup for not much more than adt changed for pstn "monitoring" $400 hardware cost seems reasonable.




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  # 1002778 11-Mar-2014 13:34
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richms: Do ADT do this decentish paradox IP stuff?

Am needing to get a couple of family members alarms off PSTN monitoring so was asking for details from them on cellular 3g monitoring but have not actually done anything yet. Would like to have IP as a primary with 3g/4g as a backup if the internet is down/cut


Before I bought my alarm I did some digging into the offer ADT were running (ie free alarm if you sign up for X years of monitoring). The small print says you have to have an old school landline so no 3G or VOIP support AFAIK.

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  # 1002780 11-Mar-2014 13:37
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Yeah. Adt offered gprs monitoring for another $9 a month which would have been fine except I couldn't put it in my name without a term which isn't really viable at the moment so they have lost my business.




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