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Topic # 150261 16-Jul-2014 19:15
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Hi, can people with some experience with powerline ethernet adapters make a recommendation.
The application is home use in a terrace house, so all power outlets are close in a small house, but perhaps there is a possibility of interference from neighbouring units?

Since it's plugging into mains power, electrical safety and reliability are key factors. I've seen some people using the Netcomm NP204 - are these good, or are there better options these days?

The AC passthrough on some models looks like a good feature, as some people have suggested that these powerline devices should always be plugged direct to the wall socket and not into a multiboard as some multiboard will filter out the high frequencies.

In an ideal world, I'd like to run cat 5e / cat 6 everywhere. However, concrete construction makes for a non-leaky terrace house, but difficult to add wiring.

There might be a need to connect multiple rooms too, if that makes a difference.

Suggestions please.




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  Reply # 1090275 16-Jul-2014 21:35
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I've got 3 edimax units. Bought a pair. These have the plug pass through.

The last one I brought was a 3 device unit. They seem to work ok. More reliable than wireless, and handy if you can't run wires.

I'm set hp in quite an old house. Not sure how good the wiring is, which would affect my speeds. But I, fairly ok running video off it. Although direct 1080i ts streams I think are being impacted.




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  Reply # 1090294 17-Jul-2014 00:52
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I use the TP-Link ones all over the place - we even use them to connect a sleepout or garage to the main house when we do broadband installs for clients.

They have a "pair" button on the bottom of them using AES security so you are safe from your neighbours being able to connect to your network. 
Although, they may have a bad appliance that could interfere with you.

They generally work very well in apartments.




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  Reply # 1090309 17-Jul-2014 05:26
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I'm using edimax on an double adaptor (didn't have a pass though) to connect to an IP camera. Works very well.

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  Reply # 1090986 17-Jul-2014 19:37
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I set up some TP-Link adapters for my parents (TP-Link TL-PA411KIT) which seem to be very good.

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  Reply # 1090994 17-Jul-2014 20:00
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I have Netgear XAVB5004 units. I got two kits - each one has two units, a single port adapter and a four-port adapter. They work well and I'm happy with them, and I get good and stable transfer rates even through multiboards at either end (they recommend against this).

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  Reply # 1091068 17-Jul-2014 22:12
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froob: I set up some TP-Link adapters for my parents (TP-Link TL-PA411KIT) which seem to be very good.


Ditto; bought the same model for my parents and set them up last weekend; they appear to be working perfectly, and were so quick and easy to set up (if only they now would make use of the extended internet they've now got, ie remember how to use Airplay between their iPad and ATV!).

I set one up on a double plug and it's working fine, so I don't think it's critical to have one with the pass-through feature...



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  Reply # 1092258 20-Jul-2014 01:53
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I was tending toward some of the Netgear and Netcomm options, but several people have mentioned the TP-Link TL-PA411KIT and the price seems pretty good. When I look on-line I seem to find some quite different looking devices with the same name.

On the TP-link site, the TL-PA411 seems to be a small light grey device.
http://www.tp-link.com/en/products/details/?model=TL-PA411

This matches the photo on pricespy:
http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=1286683

But on PB-Tech it looks like this:
http://www.pbtech.co.nz/imgprod/N/E/NETTPL0411__1.jpg

On the computerlounge site they look like this:
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=19048
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/images/products/TP-LINK_TL-PA211KIT.jpg

Note the URL for the image doesn't match the model number, so I think the picture is wrong here.
Some of the Youtube review videos seem to be mismatched too.

What's going on here - is there an old and a new version or something?
If you order a TP-Link TL-PA411KIT, what do you get?




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  Reply # 1092310 20-Jul-2014 09:20
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I bought a pair of these a month or so ago:
http://www.elive.co.nz/Edimax-500mbps-nano-powerline-adapter-kit.php

Has plug through - pretty essential I think.
House around 12 years old - so wiring is all good.

Working very well- Shows speed as 275Mbps as I look at the monitoring tool on the network.
I have hooked up a media player using these and its very quick now - much better than wifi.




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  Reply # 1105210 9-Aug-2014 00:25
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The new tplink ones are about half the physical size of the older black&white ones.
Probably the same model number - tplink has a habit of keeping the same model number but changing the shell of their units to suit the current design trends.

Its like how every few years, new tv's come out in silver, then they change back to black, then go silver again.




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  Reply # 1105230 9-Aug-2014 02:09
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I tried to find an older review that tested the impact of noisy electrical devices, switching large appliances on and off, etc. There can be dramatic differences in throughput between different products All I found in my quick scan was this test comparison which you might find useful.

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  Reply # 1107417 13-Aug-2014 07:21
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http://www.elive.co.nz/Edimax-500mbps-nano-powerline-adapter-kit.php

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Because of this thread I just purchased the above. Setup couldnt have been any easier. Plug one into wall and network cable to switch, plug other unit into bedroom then network cable to printer. Waited 5 minutes then tested printer, it worked. Reported speed was 320mb. This solved the hassle of running another network cable and putting a network faceplate onto wall.

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  Reply # 1107449 13-Aug-2014 08:49
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Just make sure you don't plug into the multiboard as usually those multiboard has noise filtering which interrupt the PowerLine signals (it uses noise for data transmission).




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  Reply # 1107463 13-Aug-2014 09:22
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chiefie: Just make sure you don't plug into the multiboard as usually those multiboard has noise filtering which interrupt the PowerLine signals (it uses noise for data transmission).


Thanks, that was part of the install instructions, plug into wall first. I have multi plugs plugged into the powerline adapter which doesnt seem to affect there operation.

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  Reply # 1107470 13-Aug-2014 09:46
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alexx: On the TP-link site, the TL-PA411 seems to be a small light grey device.
http://www.tp-link.com/en/products/details/?model=TL-PA411

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If you order a TP-Link TL-PA411KIT, what do you get?


I got 2 x TL-PA511 gigabit adapters:
http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-PA511-Powerline-Starter-Kit/dp/B0081FLFQE

Computer Lounge used to stock them.

It connects one of our PCs from one end of the house to the other (why I got it).

Most (%98+) of the time it works fine. When it doesn't work, there's basically no connection at all. When that happens it may last for a minute or two before a connection is re-established.

I speed tested to the VF gateway this morning and got down/up Mbps speeds of 30/10 and 24/10 respectively. Which is considerably better than the WiFi speeds (intermittent disconnects aside) I used to get previously.

I got the PA511 because the connection from adapter to PC/router is gigabit - I didn't want to lose _any_ speed with 10/100 latencies, which is the reason I didn't consider the PA411.




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  Reply # 1116408 27-Aug-2014 12:12
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Thanks for all the replies. I ended up getting a pair of the Edimax units mentioned earlier. One slight annoyance is that they seem to be too wide to sit alongside another plug on a double mains outlet. Perhaps they are designed that way so they can't be plugged next to something that could interfere with air circulation?

When I get them setup properly (not on a multiboard) I'll try a connection with a ftp server on my local network and see what data transfer rates I get.




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