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Topic # 154817 8-Nov-2014 18:45
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So with sky going to use the ethernet port next year and my media center, tv, stereo all running on wireless n which is slow as hell I decided it was the right time to put in a cat 6 network plate and run a cable to the vdsl router which is in another room.
Turned out to be a mission from hell which took me most of the day. Our two bedroom place is on a concrete slab so had to go down the wall cavity and along the roof cavity. 
Room up in the roof is bugger all with cross members all over the place and you need to be a contortionist to move around. With the help of the missus did the pull the power wire up through the wall cavity with network cable taped to the end and vice versa at other end.
My god was so hot up in the roof, at least I know we are insulated well. Cable is now run and have a gigabit switch connected with all the items in the media center.
Has made a massive difference in streaming to everything and glad I have done it even though it was a major mission.

Made me realize how old and unfit and how fat I have got in carrying out the above.




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  Reply # 1171438 8-Nov-2014 18:57
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Unfortunately not the correct way to do it.
Against the regs to have power & lv down the same hole 



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  Reply # 1171440 8-Nov-2014 19:09
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yeah I did think of that but I had the cable and had bought the wall socket's about a year ago when I was going to do it originally. Only got around to doing it today.




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  Reply # 1171441 8-Nov-2014 19:15
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Brunzy: Unfortunately not the correct way to do it.
Against the regs to have power & lv down the same hole 


oh really that sucks don't really want to pull it all out now though.




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  Reply # 1171444 8-Nov-2014 19:19
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Presso:
Brunzy: Unfortunately not the correct way to do it.
Against the regs to have power & lv down the same hole 


oh really that sucks don't really want to pull it all out now though.

 

I reckon it's not worth the risk to leave it in - because it's parallel, you can get inductive power through the CAT6, which can be deadly for you or your equipment.



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  Reply # 1171468 8-Nov-2014 19:47
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looks like I will be taking the cabling out tomorrow then.




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  Reply # 1171517 8-Nov-2014 22:22
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Not sure if it would be legal - Shielded CAT6, find a brand with the outer layer rated to withstand 500V or so. Connect the shield to earth (only 1 end not both).





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  Reply # 1171640 9-Nov-2014 13:48
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Presso: looks like I will be taking the cabling out tomorrow then.


Know one is coming to check....
Why go to all that effort and then rip it out?! It's your own house, do what you want!!

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  Reply # 1171643 9-Nov-2014 13:58
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chevrolux:
Presso: looks like I will be taking the cabling out tomorrow then.


Know one is coming to check....
Why go to all that effort and then rip it out?! It's your own house, do what you want!!


It's more to do with the potential risk to life or equipment in the house I imagine. 




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  Reply # 1171656 9-Nov-2014 14:52
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If something big enough to induct across from the TPS power cable to Cat6 has hit your wiring you have bigger problems than a bit of melted equipment to worry about.

Edit: I will add though, if it was me I would have looked at drilling down the wall or some discreet trunking. I just see no point in undoing something that is already done.

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  Reply # 1171685 9-Nov-2014 15:52
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In the fitout for our office power and network go down the same trunking....





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  Reply # 1171689 9-Nov-2014 16:27
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Zeon: In the fitout for our office power and network go down the same trunking....


Whoever installed that could be in for a rude awakening if you reported them.



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  Reply # 1171692 9-Nov-2014 16:41
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To be honest I did not even think about the network cable running parallel with the power cable in the wall cavity. There is no way I could have drilled down through the wall cavity as there would not even have been enough room to get a drill standing up between the top plate and roof.




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  Reply # 1171723 9-Nov-2014 17:17
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The other thing to consider - Is that as you have altered the power wireing (by installing another cable (in the same set of holes) your house wireing is no longer code complient therefore voiding your house insurance should there be any issue caused by this wireing

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chevrolux: If something big enough to induct across from the TPS power cable to Cat6 has hit your wiring you have bigger problems than a bit of melted equipment to worry about.

Edit: I will add though, if it was me I would have looked at drilling down the wall or some discreet trunking. I just see no point in undoing something that is already done.

Honestly the biggest risk isn't inductive current, although that is a risk and it COULD happen. The biggest risk is noise induction - I've seen places where because a sparky wanted to save a few minutes and popped the internal wiring and power wiring through the same path in the wall cavities, ADSL just wouldn't stand past the ETP because of the induction.

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