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  # 1376052 29-Aug-2015 11:53
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yudumcan:
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Jase2985: i think they are more worried about not being able to put the modem where they want


Agreed.

My point is that if the OP has a good VDSL connection in the wrong place, that is his/her problem.
But if the OP has a bad VDSL connection in the wrong place, that is 2Degrees' problem.


hi mate this is the test i just did, router is right next to me. looks like there's no difference then ADSL. when they first installed it download was 10mbps



That is a very bad VDSL connection - the upload speed of 4Mbps tells you that it is VDSL connection.

The minimum acceptable speed for VDSL is 15Mbps down, 5Mbps up.

The problem could be your distance from the exchange/cabinet &/or faulty house wiring.

Please look into your router and post your modem DSL stats (we need sync rate, attenuation and noise margin).

This will give give us a clue about what to do next.




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  # 1376054 29-Aug-2015 12:13
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Yep, I'd say house wiring needs sorting!




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  # 1376069 29-Aug-2015 12:23
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Sideface: But if the OP has a bad VDSL connection in the wrong place, that is 2Degrees' problem.


only if the problem isnt inside the house

i suspect the bad speed is related the the jacks not working because of the wiring in the house.

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  # 1376071 29-Aug-2015 12:26
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Has Chorus's attitude changed for VDSL installations? I thought a master filter install was compulsory - certainly was when we had it installed 24ish months ago.



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  # 1376076 29-Aug-2015 12:37
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yudumcan:
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Jase2985: i think they are more worried about not being able to put the modem where they want


Agreed.

My point is that if the OP has a good VDSL connection in the wrong place, that is his/her problem.
But if the OP has a bad VDSL connection in the wrong place, that is 2Degrees' problem.


hi mate this is the test i just did, router is right next to me. looks like there's no difference then ADSL. when they first installed it download was 10mbps



That is a very bad VDSL connection - the upload speed of 4Mbps tells you that it is VDSL connection.

The minimum acceptable speed for VDSL is 15Mbps down, 5Mbps up.

The problem could be your distance from the exchange/cabinet &/or faulty house wiring.

Please look into your router and post your modem DSL stats (we need sync rate, attenuation and noise margin).

This will give give us a clue about what to do next.


how do I get the stats from the router? it's one of those Fritz boxes come with 2D broadband?



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  # 1376079 29-Aug-2015 12:39
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coffeebaron: Yep, I'd say house wiring needs sorting!


looks like I'm in trouble? do you think 2D has any responsibility on this or is it just bad wiring and no master filter etc? are we talking about re-wiring or just maintenance?

EDIT: I'm registered with their wire maintenance plan too

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  # 1376090 29-Aug-2015 13:01
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yudumcan: how do I get the stats from the router? it's one of those Fritz boxes come with 2D broadband?


Do you have a 7490 Fritzbox?

You can download the user manual from: http://fritzbox.com.au/manual/FRITZ_Box_7490-en.pdf


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Try:

 

  • Click "Internet" in the FRITZ!Box user interface
  • Click "DSL Information" in the "Internet" menu.




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  # 1376095 29-Aug-2015 13:23
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yudumcan: how do I get the stats from the router? it's one of those Fritz boxes come with 2D broadband?


Do you have a 7490 Fritzbox?

You can download the user manual from: http://fritzbox.com.au/manual/FRITZ_Box_7490-en.pdf


EDIT: Try:

 

  • Click "Internet" in the FRITZ!Box user interface
  • Click "DSL Information" in the "Internet" menu.












EDIT: Is my wire maintenance covers any of these faults we've been talking about? I'm happy to pay if they need to install a master filter or a new socket etc..

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  # 1376099 29-Aug-2015 14:00
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yudumcan: ... Is my wire maintenance covers any of these faults we've been talking about? I'm happy to pay if they need to install a master filter or a new socket etc.


You have low attainable data rates, upstream and downstream.

I find it hard to believe that 2Degrees would install VDSL if your connection was that slow outside your house - this strongly suggests that your internal wiring is faulty (as it often is in NZ homes).

If I were you I'd get my house rewired to a single new VDSL jackpoint in a location of your choice. This would not be covered by "wire maintenance ".

If your VDSL is still slower than 15/5Mbps then you should go back to ADSL (rewiring would improve your ADSL, so it wouldn't be wasted).

Just my opinion. I hate slow smile




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  # 1376100 29-Aug-2015 14:06
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yudumcan: ... Is my wire maintenance covers any of these faults we've been talking about? I'm happy to pay if they need to install a master filter or a new socket etc.


You have low attainable data rates, upstream and downstream.

I find it hard to believe that 2Degrees would install VDSL if your connection was that slow outside your house - this strongly suggests that your internal wiring is faulty (as it often is in NZ homes).

If I were you I'd get my house rewired to a single new VDSL jackpoint in a location of your choice. This would not be covered by "wire maintenance ".

If your VDSL is still slower than 15/5Mbps then you should go back to ADSL (rewiring would improve your ADSL, so it wouldn't be wasted).

Just my opinion. I hate slow smile


Do you think I should still call 2D and see if they could do anything? I really don't want to pay for a re-weiring so would be way happier if it's something they could fix without minimum cost. 
How much will that cost me to re-wire the hose with one jackpoint? I guess 2D don't care what connection I have as long as they have my money in their account

thanks heaps for your help

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  # 1376102 29-Aug-2015 14:26
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2D wont do much i wouldnt imagine

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  # 1376103 29-Aug-2015 14:27
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yudumcan: Do you think I should still call 2D and see if they could do anything? I really don't want to pay for a re-wiring so would be way happier if it's something they could fix without minimum cost. 
How much will that cost me to re-wire the hose with one jackpoint? I guess 2D don't care what connection I have as long as they have my money in their account. 


I would call 2D, and stress that your VDSL speed is well below 15/5Mbps. 
Stress that you didn't get a proper install as nobody came to your house.
I don't fancy your chances of getting free rewiring. frown

They cannot charge you for VDSL speeds if you are only getting (slow) ADSL speeds - so at the very least you should be entitled to cancel your VDSL contact without penalty, and go back to ADSL (with the same modem/router).

I have no idea what rewiring would cost you, but I paid my ISP about $99 two years ago - expect to pay more.




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  # 1376104 29-Aug-2015 14:40
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yudumcan: Do you think I should still call 2D and see if they could do anything? I really don't want to pay for a re-wiring so would be way happier if it's something they could fix without minimum cost. 
How much will that cost me to re-wire the hose with one jackpoint? I guess 2D don't care what connection I have as long as they have my money in their account. 


I would call 2D, and stress that your VDSL speed is well below 15/5Mbps. 
Stress that you didn't get a proper install as nobody came to your house.
I don't fancy your chances of getting free rewiring. frown

They cannot charge you for VDSL speeds if you are only getting (slow) ADSL speeds - so at the very least you should be entitled to cancel your VDSL contact without penalty, and go back to ADSL (with the same modem/router).

I have no idea what rewiring would cost you, but I paid my ISP about $99 two years ago - expect to pay more.


I've been on the phone last 25 min and when it was my turn line just dropped, that happened countless times. This is really starting to piss me off I might just cancel the contract I don't care if they have the best deals if customer service is slow and stupid I'm out. 

Cheers mate I'm going to contact coffeeBaron and see how much his service cost

EDIT: If I go to 2 degrees shop and talk to some 'actual' people will they able to help?

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  # 1376109 29-Aug-2015 14:51
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  # 1376113 29-Aug-2015 15:06
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Ok I finally managed to talk to someone! They said if there's a fault and house needs rewiring it's $200. Technician said she'll run a line test today and I'll give them a call tomorrow to see if the line is faulty or not. And she said if I have naked broadband I dont need a master filter. She also sugested that I should connect with an ethernet cable and run the speedtest again and if I get more than 10Mbps download that means I'm on standart VDSL connection.
So if none of the above happens does that mean I'll need rewiring?

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