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Topic # 179191 30-Aug-2015 21:20
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Hi all,  

Looking for a bit of advice on the best approach to locating a master splitter in my parents’ house.  

The house is wired on the old three wire system with four jackpoints daisy chained. The master is the second jack (kitchen) and the following two (bedroom and office respectively) are the slave jacks.  

The first jack is in the laundry, and this is where the line comes from a grey pillar just outside the wall. Being ahead of the master jack, I assume it was not actually intended that it be used with a phone. It is of the style where you would have to unscrew it and pull it apart to plug a phone in.  

My intention was to attach the splitter at this point. My thought was to remove the existing jack and install a larger flush box and blank PDL faceplate, although I am not confident that the splitter would actually fit in.   An alternative would be to install a cabinet in this location to house the splitter and wiring. That would give the option of terminating the wiring on a patch panel, to allow VOIP to be patched in at some stage. But, it seems like overkill, given the house has no cat5/6 structured cabling and no way to install it, short of removal a large proportion of the wall linings.  

Is there any standard or recommended approach to a master splitter install in this type of situation?  

As an aside, the xDSL jack needs to be in the office at the end of the daisy chain. Unfortunately I can’t run a new cable, so will have to use alternative wires in the existing and crimp them together at each jack in the chain – not ideal. The existing cable is from the 1980s and has 8 wires. These are in two sets of four wires, with each set in the grey sheathing, joined in a similar way to speaker cable (i.e. can be pulled apart). Hopefully this will give a reasonable result.

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  Reply # 1377344 31-Aug-2015 20:48
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Master filters are actually pretty small being designed to fit inside the standard white ETP boxes, maybe order one from ascent or pbtech first since you need one anyway then you can size up what solution will work.

Putting it as early as possible makes sense, are you sure you can't run cat5e/6 cable to the office? Where there's a will there's a way... any access to under the house or the roof space?

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  Reply # 1377422 31-Aug-2015 21:42
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If you can access the roof space or under the floor, you can run new cables.

My master splitter measures roughly 70mm x 40mm x 25mm.




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  Reply # 1377444 31-Aug-2015 22:35
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Put the splitter in the wall space, then blank face plate.




Chorus has spent $1.4 billion on making their xDSL broadband network faster. If your still stuck on ADSL or VDSL, why not spend from $150 on a master filter install to make sure you are getting the most out of your connection?
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  Reply # 1377448 31-Aug-2015 22:41
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Ragnor: Master filters are actually pretty small being designed to fit inside the standard white ETP boxes, maybe order one from ascent or pbtech first since you need one anyway then you can size up what solution will work.

Putting it as early as possible makes sense, are you sure you can't run cat5e/6 cable to the office? Where there's a will there's a way... any access to under the house or the roof space?


Thanks for the replies. Will have a go with a flush box. 

It would be pretty tough to run a new cable through this house. It's on a slab, spread across four storeys with next to no accessible ceiling space. It does have a basement, but the floor above is concrete. The office is the fourth storey. As far as I can tell, the existing phone cabling is stapled inside the walls and ceiling spaces.

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  Reply # 1377553 1-Sep-2015 09:54
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froob:
Ragnor: Master filters are actually pretty small being designed to fit inside the standard white ETP boxes, maybe order one from ascent or pbtech first since you need one anyway then you can size up what solution will work.

Putting it as early as possible makes sense, are you sure you can't run cat5e/6 cable to the office? Where there's a will there's a way... any access to under the house or the roof space?


Thanks for the replies. Will have a go with a flush box. 

It would be pretty tough to run a new cable through this house. It's on a slab, spread across four storeys with next to no accessible ceiling space. It does have a basement, but the floor above is concrete. The office is the fourth storey. As far as I can tell, the existing phone cabling is stapled inside the walls and ceiling spaces.

Could you run conduit and cable up the outside of the house from master filter to office?

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  Reply # 1377597 1-Sep-2015 10:37
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 froob: The house is wired on the old three wire system with four jackpoints daisy chained...


How old is the house (and therefore the wiring)?




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  Reply # 1377630 1-Sep-2015 11:18
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 Could you run conduit and cable up the outside of the house from master filter to office?


Possible, but not really practical because of the overall height of the building and complex shape.

How old is the house (and therefore the wiring)?


Both early 80s, built just after the 3 wire system came in. Not sure what type of cabling it is exactly, but there's a bit of a description at the end of my first post.

Should hopefully work fine using that wiring, rather than running a new cable. I have some confidence that it will, because the unit next door built at the same time gets about 12Mbps on its original wiring (with plug in filters rather than a master). My main aim here is to isolate any interference from the 1980s/90s phones that are still hooked up...



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