Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.




1168 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 199


Topic # 182468 17-Oct-2015 00:05
Send private message

I've been reading through this guide because I'm interested in getting my Airport Extreme Base Station working on UFB when the installer arrives:

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/sbiddle/8744

However I just want to double check that firstly the information is still relevant for this model: http://www.gowifi.co.nz/switches/mikrotik-rb260gs-5-port-gigabit-managed-switch-sfp-fibre-port.html

I assume that I hook up the cable that comes from the ONT box to the ethernet 1 port then have a cable from the second ethernet port to my Airport router and then on the router I set it up for PPPoE authentication then everything will be cool beans?

Any additional guidance would be much appreciated.




Laptop: MacBook (Intel Core m7 1.3Ghz, 8GB RAM, 512GB SSD)

 

Desktop: iMac 5K (i7 4.0GHz, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD)

 

Smartphone: iPhone 6s Plus 128GB

 


Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
 1 | 2
121 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 7

Subscriber

  Reply # 1408108 17-Oct-2015 06:59
Send private message

Yes this all worked as described for me. As I recall the main challenge was logging into the mikrotik but once I had managed that I used the terminal mode and carefully entered the commands. I configured the mikrotik beforehand so was all ready to just plug bits together on the day - I had no changes to make for the for my airport as it was already setup for PPoE authentication.

Has been running without any problems at all for some months now.

827 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 240

Trusted

  Reply # 1408253 17-Oct-2015 15:15
Send private message

What is the wifi actually like on those Airport Extremes? 





 
 
 
 




1168 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 199


  Reply # 1408267 17-Oct-2015 16:10
Send private message

morrisk: Yes this all worked as described for me. As I recall the main challenge was logging into the mikrotik but once I had managed that I used the terminal mode and carefully entered the commands. I configured the mikrotik beforehand so was all ready to just plug bits together on the day - I had no changes to make for the for my airport as it was already setup for PPoE authentication.

Has been running without any problems at all for some months now.


The instructions are pretty good - I've noticed that there is a 750GL version that includes Gigabit Lan which is the one I'll end up going for.

darylblake: What is the wifi actually like on those Airport Extremes? 


Pretty good - and works pretty well when you've got a completely Apple network (iMac, MacBook Pro, Apple TV, iPhone).




Laptop: MacBook (Intel Core m7 1.3Ghz, 8GB RAM, 512GB SSD)

 

Desktop: iMac 5K (i7 4.0GHz, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD)

 

Smartphone: iPhone 6s Plus 128GB

 


210 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 9


  Reply # 1408277 17-Oct-2015 16:27
Send private message


The instructions are pretty good - I've noticed that there is a 750GL version that includes Gigabit Lan which is the one I'll end up going for.


I use a 750GL on Vodafone UFB 100/20.  It handles this speed ok.  I have a few NAT/Mangle/QoS Queues etc and when pushing 100 Mbps through it on a speed test, the 750GL CPU sits just over 60%.
I'm not sure it would handle a 200/200 plan based on those results, so all depends what you intend on ordering.

Vodafone is DHCP on VLAN10 and other ISP's may use PPPoE or DHCP, so that's something you will need to check out before configuring.

Cheers

edit:  all of the above is based on using the Mikrotik as the router.... now i'm not sure if you are looking to do that and just use the Airport for wi-fi, or using the Airport as the router and the Mikrotik just for VLAN translation.



1168 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 199


  Reply # 1408281 17-Oct-2015 16:35
Send private message

nbroad:

The instructions are pretty good - I've noticed that there is a 750GL version that includes Gigabit Lan which is the one I'll end up going for.


I use a 750GL on Vodafone UFB 100/20.  It handles this speed ok.  I have a few NAT/Mangle/QoS Queues etc and when pushing 100 Mbps through it on a speed test, the 750GL CPU sits just over 60%.
I'm not sure it would handle a 200/200 plan based on those results, so all depends what you intend on ordering.

Vodafone is DHCP on VLAN10 and other ISP's may use PPPoE or DHCP, so that's something you will need to check out before configuring.

Cheers

edit:  all of the above is based on using the Mikrotik as the router.... now i'm not sure if you are looking to do that and just use the Airport for wi-fi, or using the Airport as the router and the Mikrotik just for VLAN translation.


For me it is a pretty basic configuration of a cable going from the MikroTik to the ONT then another cable going from the MikroTik to the Airport Extreme - so basically it'll be sitting there doing very little in terms of processing. The Airport Extreme will be doing all the DHCP, wifi, PPPoE etc. so there will be next to nothing occurring of any great lifting.

Edit: I've decided to go ahead and bought it from Gowifi so hopefully it'll be there by next week.




Laptop: MacBook (Intel Core m7 1.3Ghz, 8GB RAM, 512GB SSD)

 

Desktop: iMac 5K (i7 4.0GHz, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD)

 

Smartphone: iPhone 6s Plus 128GB

 


827 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 240

Trusted

  Reply # 1408530 18-Oct-2015 10:46
Send private message

Yeh because my first though was the only reason for using the airport would be for the wifi. The mikrotik would be a sweet to do the routing so you would really be looking for a good access point.

What other mac integrated advantages do you get from an Airport? I got an iphone and a ipad and apple tv and a macbook pro. 







1168 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 199


  Reply # 1408713 18-Oct-2015 17:45
Send private message

darylblake: Yeh because my first though was the only reason for using the airport would be for the wifi. The mikrotik would be a sweet to do the routing so you would really be looking for a good access point.

What other mac integrated advantages do you get from an Airport? I got an iphone and a ipad and apple tv and a macbook pro. 


I guess the experience I've had is pretty subjective bought I've found that the reception is pretty good especially on the 5Ghz frequency, I can plug in a 128GB HFS+ drive and things work well, no problems in terms of bonjour detecting all the other stuff I have on the network etc. I guess it is just force of habit using Airport having owned them for many years and the bad experiences I've had with the likes of Belkin, Linksys, Dlink and Netgear in the past.




Laptop: MacBook (Intel Core m7 1.3Ghz, 8GB RAM, 512GB SSD)

 

Desktop: iMac 5K (i7 4.0GHz, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD)

 

Smartphone: iPhone 6s Plus 128GB

 


827 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 240

Trusted

  Reply # 1408716 18-Oct-2015 17:48
Send private message

Cool. I didn't mean to hi jack your thread. But I am going to get some new wireless options and dual band 5ghz and 802.11ac was what I was interested in. I currently use a mikrotik router board so was just wondering what the AirPort Extreme was like coverage wise.





21 posts

Geek
+1 received by user: 1


  Reply # 1418034 1-Nov-2015 09:08
Send private message

260gs is managable switch, not a router

353 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 44


  Reply # 1418409 1-Nov-2015 23:11
Send private message

So this is the model one would need to use with an AirPort Extreme and a UFB connection?

 

 

 

http://www.gowifi.co.nz/ethernet-adsl/mikrotik-routerboard-rb750gl-five-port-gigabit-router.html?keyword=rb750

 

 

 

 

6403 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2836

Moderator
Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1418415 1-Nov-2015 23:44
Send private message

Hmm I think you might be going around this all wrong.

If you're just VLAN Tagging for UFB all you need is a managed switch like the Mikrotik RB260GS which should do it fine. I really have not used SwitchOS before but the instructions are very straight-forward: http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/SwOS




Michael Murphy | https://murfy.nz
Want to be with an epic ISP? Want $20 to join them too? Well, use this link to sign up to BigPipe!
The Router Guide | Electric KiwiCommunity UniFi Cloud Controller | Ubiquiti Edgerouter Tutorial


353 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 44


  Reply # 1418665 2-Nov-2015 11:38
Send private message

Ive gone ahead and ordered the RB260GS, Will give it crack to try and configure myself, I understand the basic concepts but expect me to back on here requesting some support! Future thanks.

 

 

 

OP: What did you end up ordering and were you able to configure correctly?

121 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 7

Subscriber

  Reply # 1418906 2-Nov-2015 15:40
Send private message

This gives the info needed to do this.

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/sbiddle/8744




353 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 44


  Reply # 1421043 4-Nov-2015 17:46
Send private message

Well got UFB installed today which works fine using the ISP supplied modem/router.

Ive spent half the day trying to configure this Mikrotik switch (RB260GS) to use with my AirPort Extreme without any luck..

Could someone confirm I have configured the VLAN tagging correctly? Do I need to configure this anywhere else other than the tab in the screenshot? 

Also im not certain on how to bridge Port 2 to Port 1? I tried deselecting all of the tick boxes except for 'From Port 2' under the Port 1 list. Any help is much appreciated!  

The setup is:                
                             SWITCH
ONT----------------- (PORT1)                                                                        
                             (PORT2) --------------- (WAN) AirPort Extreme                                
                             (PORT3)                                                                            
                             (PORT4)                              
                             (PORT5)

Click to see full size   


Click to see full size   

Tried to follow the steps from sbiddle blog but RouterOS seems to be quite different from swOS.

827 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 240

Trusted

  Reply # 1421128 4-Nov-2015 20:18
Send private message

Why are you doing a pppoe with the airport and using the mikrotik to inject vlan tags onto the pppoe connection.

I would just follow the guide on here on how to set up a mikrotik to talk to port 1 on the ONT and do the pppoe connection off the mikrotik. Then plug the airport into the mikrotik and use it for wifi. 

EDIT: Added link http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=66&topicid=161676









 1 | 2
Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic



Twitter »

Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

How Oppo shakes New Zealand’s phone market
Posted 22-Aug-2017 18:32


Recognition for top small business advisors
Posted 22-Aug-2017 17:23


OPPO R11 dual 20MP camera phone debuts in New Zealand
Posted 22-Aug-2017 15:45


Intel introduces new 8th Generation processors
Posted 21-Aug-2017 19:02


Trend Micro launches Home Network Security
Posted 21-Aug-2017 18:38


Avondale College students at top of Microsoft Office Specialist World Championship
Posted 21-Aug-2017 14:11


Garmin introduces inReach SE+ and inReach Explorer+
Posted 21-Aug-2017 14:05


Public Wi-Fi plus cloud file sharing
Posted 18-Aug-2017 11:20


D-Link NZ launches professional Wireless AC Wave 2 Access Point for businesses
Posted 17-Aug-2017 19:25


Garmin introduces the Rino 700 five-watt two-way handheld radio
Posted 17-Aug-2017 19:04


Garmin announces the Foretrex 601 and Foretrex 701 Ballistic Edition for outdoor and tactical use
Posted 17-Aug-2017 19:02


Brightstar announces new distribution partnership with Samsung Knox platform in Australia
Posted 17-Aug-2017 17:07


Free gig-enabled WiFi network extends across Dunedin
Posted 17-Aug-2017 17:04


Samsung expands with connect Gear S3 Frontier
Posted 17-Aug-2017 15:55


Fact-checking Southern Cross Next cable is fastest to USA
Posted 17-Aug-2017 13:57



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.