The router guide - what to look for and what is best.

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#1885853 18-Oct-2017 17:46

Just purchased and installed a GWN7000 router today. Very easy to set up and the performance is looking very good.

In a few weeks I'll get a GWN7610 so I can get my head around the built-in Wi-Fi controller.

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#1919393 14-Dec-2017 09:12

Just to add my 5 cents to this topic, I have tried several all in one devices, the latest was a Synology RT1900ac which I purchased after reading a review on Geekzone, I wanted it mainly for its UI and Parental Controls which to be honest were great. Performance and stability were good as well, however after a recent software update stability has gone, it drops the 5 Gig channel constantly and needs to be rebooted to re-enable the connection. I have had to dig an old Belkin router out of the junk box while I consider what to replace the Synology with hence my visit here..

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#1919421 14-Dec-2017 09:27

prevaljo:
Just to add my 5 cents to this topic, I have tried several all in one devices, the latest was a Synology RT1900ac which I purchased after reading a review on Geekzone, I wanted it mainly for its UI and Parental Controls which to be honest were great. Performance and stability were good as well, however after a recent software update stability has gone, it drops the 5 Gig channel constantly and needs to be rebooted to re-enable the connection. I have had to dig an old Belkin router out of the junk box while I consider what to replace the Synology with hence my visit here..

Interesting, I bought the same Synology for the same reasons, have not noticed any issued recently. Admittedly I haven't looked closely though. (I primarily use the 2.4 wifi for better range, on very slow VDSL anyway)

I'm really happy with the router, particularly the parental controls. Has made managing a houseful of kids' devices quite easy. Using the iPhone app is my preferred method, only takes a few seconds to change time limits, or ban a device etc.

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#1919509 14-Dec-2017 12:33

Mine worked great until I did an update at the beginning of November to 1.1.5 Update X, and then goodbye Synology.....

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#1919538 14-Dec-2017 13:03

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#1920116 15-Dec-2017 11:54

prevaljo:

Just to add my 5 cents to this topic, I have tried several all in one devices, the latest was a Synology RT1900ac which I purchased after reading a review on Geekzone, I wanted it mainly for its UI and Parental Controls which to be honest were great. Performance and stability were good as well, however after a recent software update stability has gone, it drops the 5 Gig channel constantly and needs to be rebooted to re-enable the connection. I have had to dig an old Belkin router out of the junk box while I consider what to replace the Synology with hence my visit here..

Interesting... I had very similar experience with my Asus RT87, which I replaced to RT88 (both bought brand new) and having same issue after firmware update. 5GHz just keep dropping and I had to restart the radio freq for 5GHz to get it work again.

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#1925103 25-Dec-2017 21:50

Boxing Day sales ahoy and I'm (finally) getting around to a new router. My Advanced Tomato Nighthawk would appear broken (and hasn't yet had it's appointment with the RouterDoctor @michaelmurfy) so have been running the a HG659 for a while now. It's fine, but I'm starting to run close to the device limit and that is only going to get worse over the next few months. And it's just not that geeky.

I was all set for an ERL or USG, but I've had my head turned by the GrandStream GWN7000. Features and specs look great, but it is newer. I worry that my standard approach to problem solving/feature deployment (google) will be less effective.

Wifi is handled by Cambium APs that are fine and I can't justify upgrading those right now, so whatever I end up with will be a little mix and match.

As of late December 2017, wondering what others would do in my place.

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#1925221 26-Dec-2017 11:12

@mdf I would suggest the GWN7000 or the Edgerouter. The USG is only really good if you have the full stack (with the access points etc). If you're wanting to keep the Cambiums (and like you said - no reason to "upgrade") then those two will be totally fine.

As you know if you're wanting to experiment with the Edgerouter I've got a guide and can help you out. I'm currently using a Cambium E600 with an Edgerouter.

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#1925471 26-Dec-2017 19:19

michaelmurfy:
@mdf I would suggest the GWN7000 or the Edgerouter. The USG is only really good if you have the full stack (with the access points etc). If you're wanting to keep the Cambiums (and like you said - no reason to "upgrade") then those two will be totally fine.

As you know if you're wanting to experiment with the Edgerouter I've got a guide and can help you out. I'm currently using a Cambium E600 with an Edgerouter.

Ta. GrandStream certainly looks very appealing. Would have already bought it if PBtech actually had any in stock.

What's the OS? And what's it like? Mikrotik level difficulty or reasonably intuitive?

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#1925520 26-Dec-2017 20:34

@mdf very easy to use. It is a custom linux-based distro.

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#1931498 6-Jan-2018 21:39

So I am looking for a new device for my parents, money is not a huge factor but it has a few obstacles to overcome. The device sits behind a tv in a hebel fire surround. The building is two stories internal and external walls are fully insulated and external walls are hebel. I would like the wifi signal to get out to the external wooden office/shed (approx 2-3 meters from the external wall of the house that has power but no network cabling and currently uses a powerline wifi extender but I would prefer a faster connection if possible. I have been looking at the ubiquity amplifi mesh units but I am aware of the speed limitations once you add multiple of these devices. It is a four year old house and I cannot add devices in the open due to esthetic concerns of my parents one of the reasons I was looking at the ubiquity stuff as the AP looks comparatively good and I like their devices in general and I think I could get away with 1 mesh unit to cover what I need and my understanding with a firmware update it can do vlan tagging for the vodafone fibre x connection which would mean I could replace the vodafone router. Any suggestions appreciated and any questions i am happy to answer if i can remember the answers.

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#1940187 16-Jan-2018 21:16

For the purposes of Tomato by Shibby (or Advanced Tomato) is there any difference between the Netgear 7000(AC1900) and the 7000p(AC2300)? I believe both run the same processor and speed, presumably just different wireless? I can't find anything on the Tomato download site or their bug fix tracker that mentions the 7000p - does that mean it's functionally one in the same?

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#1943679 19-Jan-2018 17:40

Canuckabroad:

For the purposes of Tomato by Shibby (or Advanced Tomato) is there any difference between the Netgear 7000(AC1900) and the 7000p(AC2300)? I believe both run the same processor and speed, presumably just different wireless? I can't find anything on the Tomato download site or their bug fix tracker that mentions the 7000p - does that mean it's functionally one in the same?

The AC2300 has beamforming built-in high-powered amplifiers and external antennas for improved performance over the previous generation AC1900.

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#1943713 19-Jan-2018 18:10

Thanks for the reply.

I knew that about the router when I purchased it. My question is whether Tomato by Shibby WORKS on the AC2300 (7000p) or just the AC1900 (7000)? The newer model isn't listed as compatible, but if it's the same processor and the only difference is the beam-forming and external antennas - would it matter?

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#1943746 19-Jan-2018 19:13

Canuckabroad:

Thanks for the reply.

I knew that about the router when I purchased it. My question is whether Tomato by Shibby WORKS on the AC2300 (7000p) or just the AC1900 (7000)? The newer model isn't listed as compatible, but if it's the same processor and the only difference is the beam-forming and external antennas - would it matter?

Since advanced MIMO needs to be threated on a slightly different way, there is a potential risk to disable the WLAN functionality of the router or even worse, to brick it when the replacement firmware doesn't adapt to the relevant model. It seems he's covering that in his releases for router families distinguished by the processor in use but finally your question only can be answered by a daredevil or by Shibby himself.

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