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# 208486 14-Feb-2017 09:06
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Hey guys.

 

How many people have done this and managed to achieve this as a permanent fix?

 

I have tried and on my previous modem, I had all the correct ports open however since my modem crashed and I cant remember all the exact ports, when my partners PS4 is turned on first, I will have a moderate NAT type. 

 

Any suggestions here? Yes I have assigned my PS4 a static IP address also. 


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  # 1720165 14-Feb-2017 19:27
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I have a PS4 setup with static IP and used DMZ on my router (Asus AC66U) to have open NAT permanently. I'm pretty sure you can only have 1 PS4 with open NAT at a time. I have tried in the past to have 1 PS4 in DMZ and a 2nd PS4 with port forwarding to have them both open NAT but it never seemed to work properly. When using port forwarding I used portforward.com to get the port numbers, but remember there is a list of ports for the PS4 and also there may be a few extra ports that your specific game might need open. Before I game I usually just restart my router and then turn on the PS4 in DMZ first and that will always have open NAT. Any other consoles turned on after that will usually have moderate NAT (even xbox because they use similar ports to playstation). 


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  # 1720192 14-Feb-2017 20:17
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DO NOT put your PS4 into a DMZ. This is a terribly bad security practise. Your router should have UPNP or NAT-PNP that can be enabled which will allow your PS4 to go into an "Open/Moderate NAT". You shouldn't ever have to manually port forward to a PS4 or a Xbox and if you are then you're doing it wrong.





 
 
 
 


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  # 1720225 14-Feb-2017 21:38
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From living in flats with multiple Playstations and Xboxs, the only way you are going to get them all to have Open NAT and work properly online at the same time is through UPnP or NAT-PMP. If you want to play games against one another where one console acts as a host, you may also need Hairpin NAT / NAT loopback enabled on your router.

Be aware that there are apparently some security implications from using UPnP however.



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  # 1720230 14-Feb-2017 21:46
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So does anyone know the actual ports? UPnP doesn't really do anything for me when enabled

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  # 1720242 14-Feb-2017 22:08
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@Rayz159 can you play online games? Then it is working. You'll need to fully restart your PS4.

Do not port forward.






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  # 1721745 17-Feb-2017 12:05
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I can play games but I am moderate from time to time. 


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  # 1721750 17-Feb-2017 12:13
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Rayz159:

 

I can play games but I am moderate from time to time. 

 

 

Then it is working as intended... 

 

Type 1 - Open = No firewall or NAT detected. You do not want this.
Type 2 - Moderate = Going via 1 level of NAT (via a router) which is what you should be aiming for. You'll still be able to do everything as normal.
Type 3 - Strict = This is the problem child, enable UPnP or NAT-PNP to get Moderate. Basically will have problems with voice chat.

 

You should only be aiming for Moderate. You never want Open as this means there is no firewall between the PS4 and the internet. You do what the firewall there and the PS4/PS3/Xbox is designed to work with a firewall. My PS4 has a moderate NAT type and can still use it fine.

 

You'll never put your PC into an "open NAT" so why should you do the same with your PS4? You do not need Open NAT and people who tell you that you need it are misinformed.







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  # 1721751 17-Feb-2017 12:16
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I need open to host games dude..

 

In order for my friends to join me lol 


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  # 1721753 17-Feb-2017 12:19
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Rayz159:

 

I need open to host games dude..

 

In order for my friends to join me lol 

 

 

You can do this on moderate... In-fact you can do everything on moderate. Gaming consoles are designed to be behind a router. If you've got UPnP enabled then your PS4 can forward the ports it needs to host games hence the moderate NAT.





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  # 1721766 17-Feb-2017 12:25
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Rayz159:[snip]

 

In order for my friends to join me lol 

 

 

Open a big hole in your firewall and you'll have a lot more than just your friends joining you.


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  # 1721771 17-Feb-2017 12:27
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Do you have a public IP address?




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  # 1721772 17-Feb-2017 12:28
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Sure do man. 


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