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  # 1723962 21-Feb-2017 18:00
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RunningMan:

 

I'm guessing that you are using ether1 as the WAN, and the item being added as that comes back up is your PPP interface.

 

16:28:44 interface,info ether1 link up (speed 1G, full duplex)
16:28:45 system,info item added
16:28:45 system,info item added

 

The odd thing is from the logs is you have multiple ports dropping at the same time (1, 5, 9), across both switch groups. I saw @sbiddle comment in your other (removed) thread - not sure if he has seen the background in this one.

 

 

 

 

I know, the mods keep removing my post in the router thread, but thats where this belongs now as it is not a BigPipe issue but a router problem, but every time I post there it gets deleted.


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  # 1723963 21-Feb-2017 18:03
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It could very well be the router - my 3011 has had issues since an upgrade circa a month ago. Also check the MTU set it for 1480 if having issues.

The same config on my 1100ahx2 works fine but in the 3011 it's unstable


 
 
 
 


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  # 1723967 21-Feb-2017 18:15
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I've noticed a few threads on the MikroTik forum regarding port flapping on RB3011s - not having used one I didn't pay much attention, but thought a RouterOS update had addressed this some time ago.




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  # 1723989 21-Feb-2017 18:27
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RunningMan:

 

I've noticed a few threads on the MikroTik forum regarding port flapping on RB3011s - not having used one I didn't pay much attention, but thought a RouterOS update had addressed this some time ago.

 

 

 

 

Thanks for  the pointer about moving the poet and the mikrotik forum




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  # 1723992 21-Feb-2017 18:32
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Just to recap, the router is intermittently but frequently dropping all connections at the same time and then connecting again.  It can happen on an off every few minutes for hours, then stop happening for hours.

 

 

 

 




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  # 1724009 21-Feb-2017 19:27
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Other things is could be?  

 

 

 

30m of cat5e between the ONT and the router?

 

from a windows pc inside the network max mtu size is 1442 as determined by ping 8.8.8.8 -f -l mtusize_tests but pppoe defaults to 1480 at router bootup?

 

IRD debt unpaid so the man is out to get me?  hmm, maybe.


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  # 1724075 21-Feb-2017 19:54
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Given it's dropping multiple ports across both switch groups at the same time, it's got to be the router or something very closely related - dodgy cable could cause problems on one port but shouldn't affect the remaining ones.

 

Powering anything over PoE that would be overloading it?




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  # 1724080 21-Feb-2017 19:59
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RunningMan:

 

Given it's dropping multiple ports across both switch groups at the same time, it's got to be the router or something very closely related - dodgy cable could cause problems on one port but shouldn't affect the remaining ones.

 

Powering anything over PoE that would be overloading it?

 

 

 

 

No, nothing it powered,  At the moment only 3 ports are connected, so I assume if others were it would drop them too but I shall swap them and try, ether 1 is my connection to the ONT




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  # 1724222 22-Feb-2017 07:04
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RobBB:

 

RunningMan:

 

Given it's dropping multiple ports across both switch groups at the same time, it's got to be the router or something very closely related - dodgy cable could cause problems on one port but shouldn't affect the remaining ones.

 

Powering anything over PoE that would be overloading it?

 

 

 

 

No, nothing it powered,  At the moment only 3 ports are connected, so I assume if others were it would drop them too but I shall swap them and try, ether 1 is my connection to the ONT

 

 

 

 

Changing ports made no difference, but I didn't expect it would.    

 

 

 

 


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  # 1724239 22-Feb-2017 08:34
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Go into winbox and turn on the column 'last link down time' in interfaces - this will tell you if indeed the ports are flapping.

 

I'd also suggest that you downgrade the firmware to a stable version - I had this router running for over a year without problems the firmware update killed it unfortunately, i've been trying the RC's but still no luck.

 

https://mikrotik.com/download/archive

 

Maybe go for something like 6.34.6 or 6.36.4 make sure you get the ARM version and I take no responsibility if you brick your router




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  # 1724261 22-Feb-2017 09:42
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nitrotech:

 

Go into winbox and turn on the column 'last link down time' in interfaces - this will tell you if indeed the ports are flapping.

 

I'd also suggest that you downgrade the firmware to a stable version - I had this router running for over a year without problems the firmware update killed it unfortunately, i've been trying the RC's but still no luck.

 

https://mikrotik.com/download/archive

 

Maybe go for something like 6.34.6 or 6.36.4 make sure you get the ARM version and I take no responsibility if you brick your router

 

 

 

 

I will try downgrading the os version.    How will a single last link down time confirm flapping?  wouldn't a series of entries like in the log do the same?




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  # 1724628 22-Feb-2017 17:56
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Ok, now I have a whole lot of PPPoe problems in my log today.  But after that there are no more port flapping in the logs approaching 10 hours uptime sofar.  

 

 

 

05:28:45 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
05:28:45 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating...
05:28:45 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
05:28:45 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
05:28:45 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
05:28:45 system,info item removed
05:28:45 system,info item removed
05:28:48 interface,info ether1 link up (speed 1G, full duplex)
05:28:48 interface,info ether4 link up (speed 1G, full duplex)
05:28:49 interface,info ether2-master link up
05:28:53 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: authenticated
05:28:53 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connected
05:28:53 system,info item added
05:28:53 system,info item added
05:32:44 interface,info ether1 link down
05:32:44 interface,info ether2-master link down
05:32:44 interface,info ether4 link down
05:32:44 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
05:32:44 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
05:32:44 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
05:32:44 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
05:32:44 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating...
05:32:44 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
05:32:44 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
05:32:44 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
05:32:44 system,info item removed
05:32:44 system,info item removed
05:32:47 interface,info ether1 link up (speed 1G, full duplex)
05:32:48 interface,info ether4 link up (speed 1G, full duplex)
05:32:49 interface,info ether2-master link up
05:32:54 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
05:32:54 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
05:32:54 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
05:32:54 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
05:33:03 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
05:33:03 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
05:33:04 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
05:33:04 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
05:33:14 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
05:33:14 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
05:33:14 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
05:33:14 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
05:33:24 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
05:33:24 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
05:33:26 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
05:33:26 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
05:33:36 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
05:33:36 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
05:33:39 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
05:33:39 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
05:33:49 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
05:33:49 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
05:33:56 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
05:33:56 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
05:34:06 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
05:34:06 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
05:34:16 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
05:34:16 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
05:34:21 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: authenticated
05:34:21 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connected
05:34:21 system,info item added
05:34:21 system,info item added
05:39:29 interface,info ether1 link down
05:39:29 interface,info ether2-master link down
05:39:29 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
05:39:29 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
05:39:29 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
05:39:29 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
05:39:29 system,info item removed
05:39:29 system,info item removed
05:39:29 interface,info ether4 link down
05:39:32 interface,info ether1 link up (speed 1G, full duplex)
05:39:33 interface,info ether4 link up (speed 1G, full duplex)
05:39:34 interface,info ether2-master link up
05:39:36 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: authenticated
05:39:36 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connected
05:39:36 system,info item added
05:39:36 system,info item added
05:43:41 interface,info ether1 link down
05:43:41 interface,info ether2-master link down
05:43:41 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
05:43:41 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
05:43:41 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
05:43:41 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
05:43:41 interface,info ether4 link down
05:43:41 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating...
05:43:41 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
05:43:41 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
05:43:41 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
05:43:41 system,info item removed
05:43:41 system,info item removed
05:43:44 interface,info ether1 link up (speed 1G, full duplex)
05:43:45 interface,info ether4 link up (speed 1G, full duplex)
05:43:46 interface,info ether2-master link up
05:43:51 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
05:43:51 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
05:43:51 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
05:43:51 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
05:44:01 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
05:44:01 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
05:44:01 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
05:44:01 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
05:44:12 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
05:44:12 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
05:44:13 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
05:44:13 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
05:44:23 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
05:44:23 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
05:44:24 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
05:44:24 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
05:44:34 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
05:44:34 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
05:44:37 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
05:44:37 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
05:44:47 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
05:44:47 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
05:44:54 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
05:44:54 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
05:45:04 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
05:45:04 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
05:45:14 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
05:45:14 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
05:45:17 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: authenticated
05:45:17 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connected
05:45:17 system,info item added
05:45:17 system,info item added
05:47:29 interface,info ether1 link down
05:47:29 interface,info ether2-master link down
05:47:29 interface,info ether4 link down
05:47:29 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
05:47:29 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
05:47:29 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
05:47:29 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
05:47:29 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating...
05:47:29 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
05:47:29 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
05:47:29 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
05:47:29 system,info item removed
05:47:29 system,info item removed
05:47:32 interface,info ether1 link up (speed 1G, full duplex)
05:47:33 interface,info ether4 link up (speed 1G, full duplex)
05:47:34 interface,info ether2-master link up
05:47:39 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
05:47:39 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
05:47:39 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
05:47:39 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
05:47:49 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
05:47:49 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
05:47:49 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
05:47:49 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
05:47:59 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
05:47:59 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
05:48:00 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
05:48:00 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
05:48:10 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
05:48:10 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
05:48:11 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
05:48:11 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
05:48:21 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
05:48:21 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
05:48:25 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
05:48:25 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
05:48:35 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
05:48:35 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
05:48:42 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
05:48:42 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
05:48:52 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
05:48:52 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
05:49:02 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
05:49:02 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
05:49:12 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
05:49:12 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
05:49:22 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
05:49:22 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
05:49:26 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: authenticated
05:49:26 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connected
05:49:26 system,info item added
05:49:26 system,info item added
06:14:48 interface,info ether1 link down
06:14:48 interface,info ether2-master link down
06:14:48 interface,info ether4 link down
06:14:48 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
06:14:48 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
06:14:48 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
06:14:48 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
06:14:48 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating...
06:14:48 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
06:14:48 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
06:14:48 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
06:14:48 system,info item removed
06:14:48 system,info item removed
06:14:51 interface,info ether1 link up (speed 1G, full duplex)
06:14:52 interface,info ether4 link up (speed 1G, full duplex)
06:14:53 interface,info ether2-master link up
06:14:55 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: authenticated
06:14:55 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connected
06:14:55 system,info item added
06:14:55 system,info item added
06:16:39 interface,info ether1 link down
06:16:39 interface,info ether2-master link down
06:16:39 interface,info ether4 link down
06:16:39 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
06:16:39 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
06:16:39 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
06:16:39 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
06:16:39 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating...
06:16:39 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
06:16:39 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
06:16:39 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
06:16:39 system,info item removed
06:16:39 system,info item removed
06:16:42 interface,info ether1 link up (speed 1G, full duplex)
06:16:42 interface,info ether4 link up (speed 1G, full duplex)
06:16:43 interface,info ether2-master link up
06:16:50 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
06:16:50 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
06:16:50 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
06:16:50 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
06:17:00 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
06:17:00 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
06:17:00 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
06:17:00 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
06:17:10 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
06:17:10 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
06:17:11 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
06:17:11 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
06:17:21 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
06:17:21 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
06:17:22 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
06:17:22 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
06:17:33 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
06:17:33 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
06:17:36 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
06:17:36 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
06:17:46 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
06:17:46 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
06:17:52 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
06:17:52 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
06:18:02 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
06:18:02 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
06:18:12 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
06:18:12 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
06:18:22 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
06:18:22 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
06:18:32 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
06:18:32 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
06:18:42 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
06:18:42 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
06:18:52 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
06:18:52 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
06:19:02 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
06:19:02 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
06:19:12 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
06:19:12 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
06:19:21 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
06:19:21 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
06:19:31 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
06:19:31 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
06:19:41 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
06:19:41 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
06:19:51 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
06:19:51 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
06:20:01 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: terminating... - disconnected
06:20:01 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: disconnected
06:20:11 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: initializing...
06:20:11 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connecting...
06:20:15 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: authenticated
06:20:15 pppoe,ppp,info pppoe-out1: connected
06:20:15 system,info item added
06:20:15 system,info item added
16:32:46 interface,info ether3 link up (speed 100M, full duplex)
16:34:05 interface,info ether3 link down
16:34:07 interface,info ether3 link up (speed 1G, full duplex)
16:34:10 dhcp,info defconf assigned 192.168.88.254 to 6C:F0:49:5E:66:19
17:38:55 system,info,account user admin logged in from 192.168.88.254 via winbox
17:41:18 system,info,account user admin logged in from 192.168.88.254 via telnet

 

 

 

 

 


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  # 1724647 22-Feb-2017 18:28
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That's just the PPP interface dropping and trying to connect when the underlying port it's sitting on has dropped.




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  # 1724654 22-Feb-2017 18:35
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RunningMan:

 

That's just the PPP interface dropping and trying to connect when the underlying port it's sitting on has dropped.

 

 

 

 

Then that is new as of today.  Is the Mikrotik router a piece of junk?  Google is full of these things not working and the mikrotik forum full of users complain mikrotik is ignoring the problem


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Unlikely to be new, more likely that the port is just down for longer than it had been. Did you try a previous version of RouterOS as @nitrotech suggested?


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