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Topic # 223689 12-Oct-2017 22:24
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I'm going to be building next year, foundations hopefully in December, and I'm starting to figure a few networking details out. I'm allowing for 2 PoE Wifi APs in the house, one in the rumpus and one in the Family room, marked green on the plans. I guess the modem which will be somewhere in the garage will provide wifi enough for  in there. I'm hoping the rest of the house will be covered with the 2 APs, one of the Ubiquiti units or similar. Anybody know if this sounds realisitic, and suggestions on what units would work best. Thanks!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1882690 12-Oct-2017 22:58
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Have a look at my router guide but look at grabbing the Grandstream range of products as they're very good.





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  Reply # 1882695 13-Oct-2017 00:38
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Personally i'd overplan rather than underplan here.

 

 

 

i'd opt for 3 AP's inside, and depending on how much outdoor area you have, accounting for that with something directional. 

 

It's easy to drop power levels down and such to manage overlap better rather than trying to improve things later down the path.

 

 

 

Plan for decent 5Ghz coverage, futureproof that way..





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  Reply # 1882699 13-Oct-2017 00:42
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I'd agree about the over planning, but maybe not with purchasing AP's. Just have 4 ethernet outlets (or more if you can see yourself doing IP Cameras at some point) in the ceiling space, then it's easy enough to string a cable to where you need it and put a couple of holes in the ceiling. 


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  Reply # 1882729 13-Oct-2017 05:08
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id put the one in the rumpus room further towards the bathroom, under the 4 in the 3.4 measurement. you dont want it too close to a wall if you can help it puls its more central to all the bedrooms

 

id put the one in the family room more in the kitchen, between the island and the hall wall, and to the left of the stove as you look at it, this makes it closer to the mster bedroom and lounge.

 

you will likely have poor wifi in the garage so would need something there.

 

i would almost go with one in the mud room, one more central in the dining/family out toward the doors and one centrally located in the rumpus room. that would give adiquite coverage for the whole house


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  Reply # 1882730 13-Oct-2017 05:12
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Why not install a mesh network solution?

 

https://store.google.com/product/google_wifi

 

Then you can add or move devices around depending on your requirements. 


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rogercruse:

 

Why not install a mesh network solution?

 

https://store.google.com/product/google_wifi

 

Then you can add or move devices around depending on your requirements. 

 

 

I would  have thought going cable based APs would make more sense in a new build.  Mesh based are only really of advantage if you can't easily run new wires.  Where with a new build you can wire up everywhere and over-cable, while it's being built.  You don't actually have to buy the APs to put at the end of the cable. 

 

Also 3x google home were almost similar priced to ubiquiti gear anyway.

 

 





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  Reply # 1882760 13-Oct-2017 08:30
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Cabled AP's best mesh solutions in all cases if you can get the cables to the AP's.

I agree with the above. 2 AP's may do it however you'll likely want a third around the "Mud room". No harm in having more.




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  Reply # 1882944 13-Oct-2017 12:32
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It seems likely the world will move to 802.11ad on 60GHz. i.e. that sucker isn't propagating through any walls. If you really want to future proof, you might want to make an allowance for one AP per room. Depending on what your roof access will be like, that might just be a big old conduit between patch panel and roof space to run cables later. But if you're going for skillion roofs or anything, I'd be running a length of cable even if neither end is joined to anything.

@sbiddle might want to correct me if this is wrong.

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  Reply # 1882947 13-Oct-2017 12:35
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mdf: It seems likely the world will move to 802.11ad on 60GHz. i.e. that sucker isn't propagating through any walls. If you really want to future proof, you might want to make an allowance for one AP per room. Depending on what your roof access will be like, that might just be a big old conduit between patch panel and roof space to run cables later. But if you're going for skillion roofs or anything, I'd be running a length of cable even if neither end is joined to anything.

@sbiddle might want to correct me if this is wrong.

 

This is where moving to something like the UniFi In-walls would be an attractive proposition I reckon. I'm sure there are a few alternatives as well, also, I don't have any experience/knowledge of how well they work, but the concept seems good.




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  Reply # 1882948 13-Oct-2017 12:36
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Great feedback thanks. I've currently planned to have 7 cable runs just loose up on the roof space. 5 for possible IP cameras in the future, and 2 for APs so I might just get another one a third AP. I'll probably wait till we're in and all the lights, smoke alarms, and heat pump ducts are up, there'll need to gain WAF before getting stuck up.



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  Reply # 1882949 13-Oct-2017 12:37
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I hadn't heard of grandstream before, I'll check them out. Any particular models you've tried?

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  Reply # 1882993 13-Oct-2017 13:29
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CutCutCut: I hadn't heard of grandstream before, I'll check them out. Any particular models you've tried?


Grandstream GWM7000 and GWM7610 are a good combo.




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  Reply # 1883134 13-Oct-2017 19:58
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I hadn't heard of this 60 GHz system, worth considering for the future.

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  Reply # 1883303 14-Oct-2017 12:11
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davidcole:

 

rogercruse:

 

Why not install a mesh network solution?

 

https://store.google.com/product/google_wifi

 

Then you can add or move devices around depending on your requirements. 

 

 

I would  have thought going cable based APs would make more sense in a new build.  Mesh based are only really of advantage if you can't easily run new wires.  Where with a new build you can wire up everywhere and over-cable, while it's being built.  You don't actually have to buy the APs to put at the end of the cable. 

 

Also 3x google home were almost similar priced to ubiquiti gear anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

BTW I compared my home with your plans and the overall area to be covered is the same (you have more bedrooms than me!). I use a mixture of cables and 4 Google wifi devices to provide a good overall coverage. As the network is managed via the Google wifi software I can monitor performance and manage access remotely.   

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1883359 14-Oct-2017 13:20
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rogercruse:

 

 

 

BTW I compared my home with your plans and the overall area to be covered is the same (you have more bedrooms than me!). I use a mixture of cables and 4 Google wifi devices to provide a good overall coverage. As the network is managed via the Google wifi software I can monitor performance and manage access remotely.

 

You can do this with most enterprise WiFi solutions too :)





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