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  Reply # 1891179 27-Oct-2017 10:07
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trig42:

 

Starscream122:
theitman:

 

Hmm, how is it ugly?

 



You’ve gone overboard have you ever heard of a switch? Why so many Lan ports! Also have you heard of a power board? Why do you need 2 double plug outlets?

 

Not overboard at all.

 

I'm assuming that is where a TV is going to hang - power points up top for that, down below for AV/IT gear.

 

 

 

You can never have too many LAN ports. Although, in this case, they obviously all do not go back to the cabinet, as only six of them are wired up (assuming other rooms are also wired?)

 

 

 

OP - do you need to use your ASUS? Your easiest solution is to patch from the ONT port (usually port 1) to the lounge LAN port, then patch from that to the WAN port on the router Bigpipe sent you, then use that instead of the Asus.

 

(Unless the Asus acts as a Router with VLAN tagging, then you can use that instead of the Bigpipe router - you do not need both).

 

 

Yes that's correct. TV will hang there. I only bought the asus because that was said to be pretty good and i thought the modem i was sent from big pipe was purely a modem, not a router also.


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  Reply # 1891180 27-Oct-2017 10:09
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Alternatively, if there are four ports in the lounge then the router can go there, with an ethernet LAN feed back to the gaming PC via the patch panel.  Not quite the most flexible, but it does exactly what original spec called for.

 

You should check whether the TV port is wired back to the patch panel - it might go to one of the others in the lounge if that's where the router was intended to be.





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  Reply # 1891198 27-Oct-2017 10:41
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I cant read what the ports in the lounge say, but one could just be a link between top and bottom.

No need for a long LAN cable for the bedroom patch (LAN cable) the lounge 2 port and the Bed 1 port together at the panel, and then you have an in wall cable from the lounge to the bedroom.

ONT lounge 1 | lounge 1 Router
Router Lounge2 | lounge 2 Bed 1 | Bed 1 PC


If you want Lounge 2 to go to more than 1 place, put a switch in the panel, then

ONT lounge 1 | lounge 1 Router
Router Lounge2 | lounge 2 Switch
Switch Master Bed
Switch Bed 1 | Bed 1 PC
Switch Bed 2
Switch Kitchen


Clear as mud?




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  Reply # 1891206 27-Oct-2017 10:47
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I don't know why people are calling this install half-arsed.  It looks pretty nice and tidy to me.

 

Put a power multi-box in the patch panel, put your modem/router in there, patch modem/router LAN ports to the wall outlet ports on the patch panel, plug something in at the wall and if it lights up you are good to go.

 

If you need more than 4 live, put a baby switch in the patch panel, or put a switch at the wall outlet end.


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  Reply # 1891209 27-Oct-2017 10:51
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nbroad:

I don't know why people are calling this install half-arsed.  It looks pretty nice and tidy to me.


Put a power multi-box in the patch panel, put your modem/router in there, patch modem/router LAN ports to the wall outlet ports on the patch panel, plug something in at the wall and if it lights up you are good to go.


If you need more than 4 live, put a baby switch in the patch panel, or put a switch at the wall outlet end.


It's tidy, there's just not enough cables and the coax isn't terminated at all.

The instant the user wants Ethernet and phone (or anything else that uses Ethernet) they're stuffed.




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  Reply # 1891248 27-Oct-2017 11:14
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nbroad:

 

I don't know why people are calling this install half-arsed.  It looks pretty nice and tidy to me.

 

Put a power multi-box in the patch panel, put your modem/router in there, patch modem/router LAN ports to the wall outlet ports on the patch panel, plug something in at the wall and if it lights up you are good to go.

 

If you need more than 4 live, put a baby switch in the patch panel, or put a switch at the wall outlet end.

 

 

Cheers, going to head over to the house and try get it sorted this weekend.


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  Reply # 1891250 27-Oct-2017 11:22
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Theres so many ways.

 

 

 

The other not so pretty uses up 2 outlets near the AV to loop back to the others. (and no room for PHONE) - dont forget they use the same holes if not direct from router to handset base) Effectively I have this in my unit, but 2 cabinets in the garage. ONT + Router in 1, Switch in the other

 

The biggest thing is finding how many actual point to point outlets are connected to a single loaction to see how much farting around re-jumpering here to there is needed since there appears 6 total.

 

 

 

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  Reply # 1891262 27-Oct-2017 11:41
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Ok so I'm going to put this in simple terms :)

 


1. Buy a multi-plug for BigPipe modem/router in the cabinet.

 

2. Connect the ONT to the BigPipe modem/router via lan cable.

 

3. Connect Lounge port on black switch to BigPipe router/modem.

 

4. ASUS router in lounge ethernet connected to the wall via a LAN port.

 

5. Other devices connected to other ASUS LAN ports e.g. TV, PS4 etc

"If there is a port in the room with the gaming PC, then you can hook it up by BigPipe LAN to port, port to gaming PC." There is a network port in the bedroom. Not sure i understand this completely???

Disable BigPipe router wifi, and just use the wifi on the ASUS.


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  Reply # 1891304 27-Oct-2017 12:03
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Oblivian: Totally depends on how much you want to restrict the rest of the house. Install in cabinet = more than 1 port wired active. Put in lounge = 5 unusable outlets and restricted to huddling around a box in lounge

Even less if you need to redirect the phone port of the router to an out too rather than plug directly in

 

 

 

I suppose it's impossible to know without seeing the layout of the house and I am sure some will be easy and some not so easy..


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  Reply # 1891310 27-Oct-2017 12:08
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theitman:

 

Ok so I'm going to put this in simple terms :)

 


1. Buy a multi-plug for BigPipe modem/router in the cabinet.

 

2. Connect the ONT to the BigPipe modem/router via lan cable.

 

3. Connect Lounge port on black switch to BigPipe router/modem.

 

4. ASUS router in lounge ethernet connected to the wall via a LAN port.

 

5. Other devices connected to other ASUS LAN ports e.g. TV, PS4 etc

"If there is a port in the room with the gaming PC, then you can hook it up by BigPipe LAN to port, port to gaming PC." There is a network port in the bedroom. Not sure i understand this completely???

Disable BigPipe router wifi, and just use the wifi on the ASUS.

 

 

Yep, do this. Will work fine.

 

You should also disable DHCP in the Asus and let the Bigpipe router do that. The Asus WiFi should still work fine (it will hand out IP addresses the BP router assigns). Just make sure you put the cable from the BP router into a LAN port on the Asus (not WAN).

 

 

 

For the Gaming PC in the bedroom, run a patch lead from a LAN port on the BP router in the cabinet to the port on the patch panel that corresponds to the bedroom, and patch from the port on the wall in the bedroom to you gaming PC.

 

 

 

So you will have:

 

 

 

ONT ==== BP Router LAN1 ==== Patch to lounge ==== LAN on Asus ==== LAN to TV/PS4 etc and WiFi

 

                 BP Router LAN2 ==== Patch to Bedroom ==== Gaming PC

 

 

 

Edit - just thought - change the IP address on the Asus to be on the same network as the BP Router, but not in the Routers DHCP range (so if BP router is 192.168.1.254, change the Asus to be 192.168.1.253 and the DHCP range on the BP router to 192.168.1.100 to 192.168.1.199 or something).




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  Reply # 1891314 27-Oct-2017 12:14
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trig42:

 

theitman:

 

Ok so I'm going to put this in simple terms :)

 


1. Buy a multi-plug for BigPipe modem/router in the cabinet.

 

2. Connect the ONT to the BigPipe modem/router via lan cable.

 

3. Connect Lounge port on black switch to BigPipe router/modem.

 

4. ASUS router in lounge ethernet connected to the wall via a LAN port.

 

5. Other devices connected to other ASUS LAN ports e.g. TV, PS4 etc

"If there is a port in the room with the gaming PC, then you can hook it up by BigPipe LAN to port, port to gaming PC." There is a network port in the bedroom. Not sure i understand this completely???

Disable BigPipe router wifi, and just use the wifi on the ASUS.

 

 

Yep, do this. Will work fine.

 

You should also disable DHCP in the Asus and let the Bigpipe router do that. The Asus WiFi should still work fine (it will hand out IP addresses the BP router assigns). Just make sure you put the cable from the BP router into a LAN port on the Asus (not WAN).

 

For the Gaming PC in the bedroom, run a patch lead from a LAN port on the BP router in the cabinet to the port on the patch panel that corresponds to the bedroom, and patch from the port on the wall in the bedroom to you gaming PC.

 

 

 

So you will have:

 

 

 

ONT ==== BP Router LAN1 ==== Patch to lounge ==== LAN on Asus ==== LAN to TV/PS4 etc and WiFi

 

                 BP Router LAN2 ==== Patch to Bedroom ==== Gaming PC

 

 

"Just make sure you put the cable from the BP router into a LAN port on the Asus (not WAN)."

 

So does that mean i can't have the asus router in the lounge, in needs to be in the cabinet with the BP modem?


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  Reply # 1891316 27-Oct-2017 12:18
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No, it can be anywhere, just plug the cable from the BP router (via the in wall cables) into a LAN port on the ASUS, not the WAN port (otherwise you will have effectively two networks, and be double-natting).


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  Reply # 1891323 27-Oct-2017 12:25
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Starscream122:
theitman:

 

Hmm, how is it ugly?

 



You’ve gone overboard have you ever heard of a switch? Why so many Lan ports! Also have you heard of a power board? Why do you need 2 double plug outlets?

 

@Starscream122, I guess you'd probably have a fit at what I got under my TV in the lounge:

 

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  Reply # 1891338 27-Oct-2017 12:43
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Is something like this sufficient for connecting everything within the cabinet in the garage?

 

 

 

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/CABDNX0086/DYNAMIX-03M-Cat6-Blue-UTP-Patch-Lead-T568A-Specifi


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  Reply # 1891343 27-Oct-2017 12:55
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theitman:

Is something like this sufficient for connecting everything within the cabinet in the garage?


 


https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/CABDNX0086/DYNAMIX-03M-Cat6-Blue-UTP-Patch-Lead-T568A-Specifi


Perfect




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