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  #1891354 27-Oct-2017 13:34
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Technically that way that cable is punched down does not meet the spec for CAT6. tongue-out There should only be a maximum of 12.7mm of unsheathed, untwisted cable. 

 

It's not going to actually matter in this case though, not until you try to run 10GbE over it anyway, but you'd need to replace the patch panel when the time comes to do that anyway haha. 

Sounds like you've got this under control now. It does seem like a bit of a half arsed job to me, but possibly it's the norm these days.




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  #1891355 27-Oct-2017 13:36
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wratterus:

 

Technically that way that cable is punched down does not meet the spec for CAT6. tongue-out There should only be a maximum of 12.7mm of unsheathed, untwisted cable. 

 

It's not going to actually matter in this case though. Sounds like you've got this under control now. It does seem like a bit of a half arsed job to me, but possibly it's the norm these days.

 

 

I'm doing a half arsed job or the electrician did?


 
 
 
 


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  #1891356 27-Oct-2017 13:38
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theitman:

 

wratterus:

 

Technically that way that cable is punched down does not meet the spec for CAT6. tongue-out There should only be a maximum of 12.7mm of unsheathed, untwisted cable. 

 

It's not going to actually matter in this case though. Sounds like you've got this under control now. It does seem like a bit of a half arsed job to me, but possibly it's the norm these days.

 

 

I'm doing a half arsed job or the electrician did?

 

 

 

 

Sorry - The sparky did. You're all on the right track. I think the reason there's so much confusion here is there is no technically correct way to do what you are wanting, and everyone has a different idea on what the best way is. 

At the end of the day the best way is what works the best for your particular setup, but you definitely don't want to end up with double NAT. 


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  #1891358 27-Oct-2017 13:44
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wratterus:

 

theitman:

 

wratterus:

 

Technically that way that cable is punched down does not meet the spec for CAT6. tongue-out There should only be a maximum of 12.7mm of unsheathed, untwisted cable. 

 

It's not going to actually matter in this case though. Sounds like you've got this under control now. It does seem like a bit of a half arsed job to me, but possibly it's the norm these days.

 

 

I'm doing a half arsed job or the electrician did?

 

 

 

 

Sorry - The sparky did. You're all on the right track. 

 

 

 

 

How much did all that cost materials + labor?


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  #1891402 27-Oct-2017 15:39
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Starscream122:

 

wratterus:

 

theitman:

 

wratterus:

 

Technically that way that cable is punched down does not meet the spec for CAT6. tongue-out There should only be a maximum of 12.7mm of unsheathed, untwisted cable. 

 

It's not going to actually matter in this case though. Sounds like you've got this under control now. It does seem like a bit of a half arsed job to me, but possibly it's the norm these days.

 

 

I'm doing a half arsed job or the electrician did?

 

 

 

 

Sorry - The sparky did. You're all on the right track. 

 

 

 

 

How much did all that cost materials + labor?

 

 

Above is new standard for new builds as part of the UFB push If you are thinking it's a case of retrofitting.. So often absorbed into the total package costing and not as easily identified how much such an install would be.




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  #1891403 27-Oct-2017 15:43
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Oblivian:

 

 

 

Above is new standard for new builds as part of the UFB push If you are thinking it's a case of retrofitting.. So often absorbed into the total package costing and not as easily identified how much such an install would be.

 

Yeah wouldn't have a clue what it cost, all included in the package.


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  #1891404 27-Oct-2017 15:47
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theitman:

 

 

 

Yeah wouldn't have a clue what it cost, all included in the package.

 

The package of having your house built?

 

So your saying they do all this now as a standard in new house builds?


 
 
 
 


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  #1891405 27-Oct-2017 15:50
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Starscream122:

 

The package of having your house built?

 

So your saying they do all this now as a standard in new house builds?

 

 

 

 

They absolutely should be. See here and here


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  #1891406 27-Oct-2017 15:53
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Please guys - don't go quoting everything in the thread. Refer to the FUG as to why.





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  #1891409 27-Oct-2017 15:56
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So this is not something geeks do in new house builds it's now a requirement by law in all new house builds?


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  #1891413 27-Oct-2017 16:00
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Starscream122:

 

So this is not something geeks do in new house builds it's now a requirement by law in all new house builds?

 



I don't believe it's law, but it's ridiculous not to. Someone in the industry may be able to confirm that? Costs a tiny fraction to do it while building rather than doing it later so why not do it?

https://www.chorus.co.nz/help-and-support/wiring-broadband/home-wiring-contractors

 

That link gives good guidelines for what really should be done on any new build or major reno. 

 

 

 

 


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  #1891428 27-Oct-2017 16:13
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I bet there's a lot of people that arn't into internet etc that would never dream of having this done in a house they are building.


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  #1891430 27-Oct-2017 16:29
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Nope, and it can hurt when it comes to selling. Dedicated entertainment rooms away from main living (5/7.1 wiring and so on) and star wiring are a selling point for younger families this day in age. 

 

Even convinced a few retirees to pre-cable a room even though they weren't tech savvy on a EQ build. Next minute they spend most the time in there on tablets while the tv plays streaming oldies shows.

 

 

 

Also why people got upset when UFB come along and the mandate/norm for non pre-wired was to throw it behind the tv. Will the tv stay in that spot? maybe not but the router and ONT sure will.


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  #1891446 27-Oct-2017 16:56
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We recently had our house "naked" (leaky home being re-clad). I couldn't afford a full structured cabling solution, but managed to get mostly there with 6 ports scattered throughout our house, terminating at the location of our VDSL modem (and where Chorus assured me my ONT can be situated when fibre gets here in December). It's my favourite of all the upgrades we had done during the repair process. :-)

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  #1891447 27-Oct-2017 16:57
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@Starscream122:
theitman:

 

Hmm, how is it ugly?

 



You’ve gone overboard have you ever heard of a switch? Why so many Lan ports! Also have you heard of a power board? Why do you need 2 double plug outlets?

 

it would usually all be hidden.

 

the way a central star configuration is setup is so you only have one switch located in the patch panel so that each device can get its only network port in the wall, and so if you were to place the router in the lounge it could back feed to the patch panel to allow connections to the rest of the house.

 

wall plugs are safer than power boards.

 

i currently have 4 things plugged to the wall by my TV


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