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  Reply # 1925144 26-Dec-2017 07:35
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The problem with trying to do something like this yourself is that you will make a mess of it, guaranteed. You're also going to need to invest heavily in tools and hardware just to do the work.

 

I have no issues in people attempting their own wiring and the only way to learn about things is to try them yourself, but in this case I can absolutely guarantee that if you've never had any wiring experience you will seriously struggle to do this. The number of dodgy wiring jobs I see as part of my day job still amazes me.

 

I can't recall anybody who's ever punched down a frame on their first attempt (and I've both seen and taught people by letting them try first after some basic guidance) who's done what I'd describe as even an adequate job. Most people untwist and expose too much cable, and that will lead to performance issues.

 

There are times when paying a couple of hundred dollars to get somebody to finish some work that should have been done by the person who started the job is actually worth it. 

 

 


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  Reply # 1925168 26-Dec-2017 09:12
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What sbiddle said.

 

Wiring stuff-ups are 100% regular and the home owner will persist at blaming everything other than the cabling.

 

'The router's faulty', 'The switch must be stuffed', 'This wireless music system is rubbish'... all comments we see daily, but very few people go back to the building blocks of their network... the wiring. Let alone look into router setup issues...


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1927657 1-Jan-2018 16:20
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k1w1k1d:

 

Would you want that installer back?

 

 

I certainly wouldn't!!

 

It does appear the TV cabling was done before the cabinet was put in so they have just put them on a faceplate below the cabinet, and then sparkie knew nothing about data so hasn't attempted. Respect him for knowing his limits I guess!

 

Edit: I could fix that for you if you are in Auckland, but will probably involve fixing outlets as well as installing the patch panel. Message me.





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  Reply # 1943730 19-Jan-2018 18:44
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Have been busy elsewhere so no time to look at this since I started this topic.

I have another question,

Why do I need to use a patch panel at all ? Why can I not take the feed from the fibre box (ont ?) and put it into a switch. Then run the 8 outlets on the switch to various cables around the house. .?




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  Reply # 1943731 19-Jan-2018 18:49
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ermat: Have been busy elsewhere so no time to look at this since I started this topic.

I have another question,

Why do I need to use a patch panel at all ? Why can I not take the feed from the fibre box (ont ?) and put it into a switch. Then run the 8 outlets on the switch to various cables around the house. .?



 

You can't feed your ONT directly into a switch. You need your router in between these. You will then run patch leads from the switch to the patch panel.

 

You don't need a patch panel for things to work as you can simply terminate the cabling and put a RJ45 plug in it but that's nothing but a junky half done job and I can virtually guarantee will cause issues going forward since solid cable is not designed to be moved or flexed and will break.

 

Please take the advice above and either get back the person who did the wiring to actually complete the job that they should have done OR call in an expert to actually finish the job. Doing things yourself is simply going to lead to even more dramas and issues going forward.

 

 

 

 

 

 




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  Reply # 1943738 19-Jan-2018 18:59
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ok, thats a good enough reason. I hear what you are saying. Thanks.






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  Reply # 1943742 19-Jan-2018 19:09
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Also, since I first raised this question I have had a "profesional" A/V tradesman look at and quote the job and tell me no patch panel would be necessary.

He advised a $320 8 port 1gigabyte switch would be required.

I have since seen a 1 gigabyte switch at PBtech for $37.







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  Reply # 1943750 19-Jan-2018 19:32
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  Reply # 1943757 19-Jan-2018 19:46
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ermat: Also, since I first raised this question I have had a "profesional" A/V tradesman look at and quote the job and tell me no patch panel would be necessary.

He advised a $320 8 port 1gigabyte switch would be required.

I have since seen a 1 gigabyte switch at PBtech for $37.


First bit is weird, while no patch panel is needed (you could crimp plugs to the house-hold wiring, to plug to your switch), it is definitely best practice to use a patch panel as the solid core in household wiring is not intended for regular movement.

Regarding switches, not all are created the same. If you want one with Power over Ethernet injection (great for IP phones, IP cameras, and ceiling mounted access points), they are very expensive. Also managed switches cost a lot more than un-managed (not that you need the latter, I have a $120 16 port unmanaged switch)





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  Reply # 1943820 19-Jan-2018 21:42
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There was no reference in the quote to power over ethernet, nor did i request it.

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  Reply # 1943916 20-Jan-2018 10:27
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Very odd that your A/V chap says no patch panel is required, he could be intending to terminate them on jacks that are installed in surface mounted faceplates which is acceptable, however a patch panel is cheaper and results in a better finish.

 

As for a switch, $320 is about 5-10x too much

 

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  Reply # 1944040 20-Jan-2018 15:45
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Thanks Cyril, can anyone show an example of a jack onto a surface mounted face plate.

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  Reply # 1944051 20-Jan-2018 16:20
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This type of thing. Then use short 300-500mm type cables from that to the switch. Can be more economical than a patch panel if you dont need 24 ports, and the silly little ones made for those baby networking cupboards that seem to be the rage in houses are way overpriced compared to a normal 19" one.

 

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  Reply # 1944059 20-Jan-2018 16:34
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Can you get him to email you the switch he is suggesting because it sounds like he is making at least a couple of hundred off that maybe 250 to me. For example i got a smart 48 port hp switch through work as a not for retail sale for abou 400 maybe a little less.



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  Reply # 1944066 20-Jan-2018 16:49
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richms:

This type of thing. Then use short 300-500mm type cables from that to the switch. Can be more economical than a patch panel if you dont need 24 ports, and the silly little ones made for those baby networking cupboards that seem to be the rage in houses are way overpriced compared to a normal 19" one.


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This looks promising. How s the cat 6 connected to this, I presume it has a crimped fitting ? Not punched as in a patch panel ?

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