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  #2006645 2-May-2018 17:43
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@chevrolux To be honest I think a Mikrotik is much more difficult to secure / set up VPN for a new user than using the PiVPN scripts. With PiVPN it is very hard to muck it up which is why I like it and it has very good doco.



Yep turns out I should have Googled that. PiVPN looks great for setting up OpenVPN - that installer looks fantastic.


If you want to be able to use Windows/Android/IOS native clients though, Mikrotik with L2TP/IPsec =)

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  #2011577 9-May-2018 11:28
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Sorted!  This NVR is a very recent release, and since DVR's and NVR's have a history of not being secure as per a number of posters here,  it looks like vendor has overcompensated and gone over the top with security. They were one of the vendors that got stung by the exploit posted by michaelmurphy... and it appears they have learnt from that. Upon further investigation I discovered some fairly buried menus in the NVR, and found that it has its own internal firewall with its own NAT which also needs to be set up. It also uses two factor authentication with encrypted password and UID, plus it also has its own VPN running back to the vendors own server which needs to be set up and running with a separate user ID and password (also encrypted) before it opens up the ports.... Once I had set all of that up - the ports were open and I was able to then access it using vendor provided smartphone app with the username/password and UID




Thank you everyone for your help, and the Rasberry Pi I bought I may put into service to run a VPN into my old DVR which is now running at my tenants property (no open ports on their router as yet though!)


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  #2012671 9-May-2018 13:19
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Looks like Swann cloud uses DDNS to look back at WAN interface with standard ports forwarded, no mention of any VPN outbound or inbound in manual. NAT section is to enable UPnP. You haven't convinced me.

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  #2012717 9-May-2018 14:21
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Hasn't convinced me either.


I'm firmy of the opinion that routers shouldn't have port forward capabilities - because they're not needed by 99% of people. A lot of people set up port forwards because they think they need them when they actually don't.


Any port forward is much like leaving your front door open at home. Anybody can snoop inside your house, and for years may not steal anything until one day you find your house cleaned out.





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