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  Reply # 2027895 3-Jun-2018 18:01
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yes it would be waste of money

 

dont touch netcomm as mentioned multiple times before

 

get a wifi mess kit if your looking to spend that sort of money, will offer superior wifi coverage to the ac2600 device

 


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  Reply # 2027946 3-Jun-2018 19:46
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you could just get something like this . . .

 

I'm using one to connect to my HG659B at the opposite end of the house and get about an 85% connection signal and pretty good speeds.
Will make the portability of your laptop a bit of a pain though.

 

 




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  Reply # 2027952 3-Jun-2018 20:09
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you could just get something like this . . .

 

I'm using one to connect to my HG659B at the opposite end of the house and get about an 85% connection signal and pretty good speeds.
Will make the portability of your laptop a bit of a pain though.

 

 

Yes thats what Im trying to avoid. Thank you though.

 

Hence the power plug repeater suits a bit better as Ive tested the notebook outside the bedroom and it gets about 90% of the 5m range speed. The power point device is in line of site of the bedroom so I think in this individual situation a wifi repeater makes sense. I know usually they are not the best choice, but I think in this situation I think it does make sense given prior to UFB I was getting 30Mbps, if it gets 50Mbps id be happy with that and Im almost 100% with a repeater Id get that easily.

 

But finding a good power point repeater Im not familiar with, but I saw a netgear ac750, which has dual antennas, dual band AC, it sold for $40 1 month old on trademe.

 

Could I use a second hg659 as a repeater?

 

Yes mesh systems are good, but really they are just multiple access points. The ac2600 4 stream is half price though, new, only reason im considering it. its a bit overkill for a 70sqm flat.


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  Reply # 2027953 3-Jun-2018 20:10
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yes but how are you getting the internet connection to the second hg659?

 

ps its not a repeater its an access point

 

repeater takes a wifi signal and rebroadcasts it, 99% or routers wont do this



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  Reply # 2027962 3-Jun-2018 20:20
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Yep but I cant run a cable down to there to make it act as an acess point, it it can act as a repeater (ie re peating the wifi) in the direction of the bedroom then another one wont work for me. Looks like a dedicated wifi repeater will work in this situation. like the cheap netgear one.


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  Reply # 2027963 3-Jun-2018 20:21
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99% or routers wont do this.

 

honestly power line over a repeater setup

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  Reply # 2028054 4-Jun-2018 00:50
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TeaLeaf:

 

Thanks Rich for trying to help, I do appreciate it.

 

What would I plug this USB repeater into?

 

Outside all of this, adding all the cost together, would an ac2600 4x4 stream device be a bad idea? Im getting signal, its just not strong with the hg659 being fairly weak on the throughput perspective?

 

Given Im refering to something made in this year, its resale value should be up there. I just saw a linksys wrt ac1900 go for $150, and asus ac68u's, both sell for about $120 over the weekend and these are 4 year old devices with less power/technology and still selling for a good sum.

 

I think the mistake I made with my NF4V was buying something very generic. So buying a generic ac1900 device is a bad idea imo, ie an nf8ac.

 

 

The USB powers them, There is provision for the xiaomi ones to configure them automatically by plugging into selected routers they make and it will set them up but I have yet to test that. They seem to do the job fine.

 

As you are on a slow connection getting anything fast is a waste of time, adding 4x4 wifi or 80MHz/160MHz channels only adds speed to a good connection, it will do nothing to help make a barely there connection much better.





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  Reply # 2028089 4-Jun-2018 08:48
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My advise, run a cable to that second access point. If you can't DIY it yourself then pay somebody to come in and put in that cable. It will be worth it in the end and just hook a new AP up to that.

 

From my experience with powerline adaptors, they do/can work well. And generally work better than a wifi range extender.

 

- speeds can vary, depending on where in the house they installed. I own a pair of D-LInk AV2000's, they are pretty good and probably one of the best on the market today, Don't expect to receive that gbit/s speeds though, the closer they are to each other the better they will be. I had them installed from an upstairs office to garage, most of the time they worked flawelessly. But every few weeks/sometimes days I just had to reset them and they lost comms. Unsure why but it seems to be a common problem with most of these things.

 

- latency is good/ but really bad sometimes. I was getting on an average of 5ms ping response times to the garage which is fine. I once ran a test and left it running for a day and latency is severly impacted depending on the time of the day etc.. Sometimes 300ms. From my testing latency would be worse when nearby appliances are on/running.

 

In the end I bit the bullet, bought some cat6 cable and ran it myself down to the garage. Latency is now less than 0.05ms and rarely changes.

 

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  Reply # 2028196 4-Jun-2018 11:56
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richms:

 

adding 4x4 wifi or 80MHz/160MHz channels only adds speed to a good connection, it will do nothing to help make a barely there connection much better.

 

 

Using a 4x4 will increase the receive sensitivity of the wireless router/access point so may improve the upstream RSSI.  If MU MIMO is disabled a number of SU MIMO functions apply which can also improve the RSSI.  This assumes the wireless client has MIMO capabilities (i.e. it is 802.11n/ac compliant).  Therefore a 4x4 transmitter may improve the wireless performance but going from intermittent connectivity to consistent low throughput connectivity may not be the desired outcome. 

 

Any time you channel bond (20->40 MHz, 40->80 MHz, 80->160 MHz) there is a 3 dB signal loss (basically the signal halves) so in areas with poor signal strength one the worst things you can do is channel bond.  The channel bond may increase the number of potential MCS rates but with the reduced RSSI you have no chance of achieving them.




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  Reply # 2029864 5-Jun-2018 15:09
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I think Im just going to live with the 10-15Mbps on the old notebook down that end of the house. It still plays 1080p.

 

Whats amazing though on the NF45, the newer notebooks, SB2 and new Asus 3 (13), both pull 45Mbhz on 2.4Ghz down there and when within 5m get up to 60. They pretty much max out on 5ghz AC.

 

The TV is now on Ethernet and does the job. to be honest the Netcom NF4V 2.4Ghz N did the job in reality. I just wanted faster for no real need.

 

Almost regret buying the Huawei just for the AC 5Ghz but I guess it showed me the potential, but everything within reach that needs above 60Mbps is on Ethernet anyway.

 

Oh well.

 

Thanks all.




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  Reply # 2031065 6-Jun-2018 20:38
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I was going to apply the bigpipe firmward to this vodafone hg659, but in the the modify section there is no place to apple the firmware update.....

 

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  Reply # 2031066 6-Jun-2018 20:39
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logged in as admin?

 

but why do you need bigpipe firmware?

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  Reply # 2031071 6-Jun-2018 20:51
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Jase2985: logged in as admin? but why do you need bigpipe firmware?

 

personally i'd strip vodafones firmware too. their wifi stack sucks.





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  Reply # 2031087 6-Jun-2018 21:43
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I got a new hg569, the other was a loaner, Im getting no internet when I plug it in.

 

On vodafones site it says there should be a firmware,

 

"Upgrade your modem's firmware"

 

I thought it would just be plug and play like my last device, but damn its horrid. My netcomm in instant, this thing logs its self out of admin, sometimes takes 30 seconds to enter a paramater.

 

Anyway I dont know why it wont connect to the ONT, all lights are on and it says its connecting.

 

Do they all say "Vodafone Home Gateway". its definitely an hg659.




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  Reply # 2031090 6-Jun-2018 21:45
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I cant even find where to set up pppoe

 

Im starting to wonder if this is a totally different router setup to the other hg659.

 

What a pita.

 

Asbolutely Id advise spending $60 on an Asus ac1200 than $20 on this rubbish that is so prehistoric.


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