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Topic # 242413 27-Oct-2018 15:04
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Hi, what for me is a knotty little list of options but hopefully very clear to people here.  If easier to call me, or you know someone I can get in touch with, please let me know.  I am wanting to do three things:



  1. Enhance my son’s wifi speed on his gaming PC

  2. Be able to turn off his PC and iphone Wifi whenever I want, and

  3. Do the above the most cost effectively


I am on Spark with their supplied router, Huawei HG659b.   We have just bought James a high-speced gaming PC and PB Tech also got us to buy the TP-Link AV600 Powerline (TL-WPA4220 KIT) to boost his wi-fi.  This is plugged into his PC.


James is at home studying for some very big exams and during his breaks his preferred option is to get onto his PC and play Fortnite or his iphone re Youtube, social media etc.  However, 10 minutes break can turn into 20 can turn into an hour or so.  So I want a way that I can be at work and turn his phone and PC wifi on and off whenever I want, ideally by way of an app.  So not a case of preset times, eg. allowing him access between 1pm and 2pm each day, its being able to turn him on and off at otherwise random times.  He would text me when he wants to go on, I'd turn him on, and then turn him off at an agreed time.


Searching the net, couldn’t find an App that is compatible with the Huawei HG659b (but you may know of one?).  I did download the WiFi Blocker app, and it can read my router in terms that it can show me the devices connected.  I have turned off one access for one of these but the device can still access wifi.  So, it appears it doesnt work.  Their site shows they support a range of Huawei  routers, including the HG659 but not the H659b, and the app is reading my router as Hg6NN (which it isn’t and isn’t on their list anyway – so confused).  Their support says they can add this router to the app, but this can take a few weeks and involves a lot of legwork from me (by which time James' exams over).  


Re remote and random blocking, a friend has suggested Google Wifi.  While they do sell it, Noel Leeming suggested that the Netgear Orbi AC2200 2 pack (RBK-20-100AUS) would be a better option.  Google WiFi uses its own app, Orbi uses Circle with Disney app.


Questions and options:



  1. Existing setup + App - does anyone know of an app I can use with the Huawei HG659b?

  2. Google Wifi - this plugs into the router, and I can set up a mesh wifi if buy another 1 or 2 (depending on coverage area).  If I just bought the one – would we be able to get rid of the TP-Link AV600 Powerline and not affect James’ PC’s gaming response? His ping on Fortnite with the TP-Link is 25 – 30, without it is higher.  I could buy it and test to see if can get away with one.  If it wasn’t good, could buy two, with the 2nd beside his PC and see what effect that had

  3. Could James just unplug the Google WiFi whenever he wants and just access existing router? And, if so, would I be able to get notification or see later that he has done this?

  4. Orbi – this would replace existing router so no ‘unplug Google Wifi’ issue (if that is an issue). Would he get same speed if 2nd Orbi beside his PC and no TP-Link? (ie. would return TP-Link for a refund so as to offset overall cost).       

  5. I see there are other Orbi’s but more expensive – Noel Leeming think could get away with the RBK-20 (but they are not tech specalists)

  6. Any other thoughts – better routers? (bearing in mind my goals of app access, James PC speed and cost) – or software loaded on his PC and phone (bearing in mind, would he able to get around it?)


 


thanks, Peter


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  Reply # 2115005 27-Oct-2018 15:41
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A powerline adaptor doesn't use WiFi, so turning WiFi off isn't going to stop the PC having a network connection.


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  Reply # 2115051 27-Oct-2018 16:02
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I'm a uni student with fairly chronic procrastination problems, mainly fueled by gaming and Youtube. I find the best option is to go cold turkey, otherwise, you're not completely focused on your work, instead, you're thinking about the next gaming fix throughout the day. If he has another computer for his studies, then I would take a peripheral needed for gaming, so he can't use the gaming computer during work hours. Just give him that peripheral during evenings or some other designated time.

As for other procrastination methods. I have an app called "Block Websites" on my iPhone that will block websites for a designated time. I also have a similar one for my Mac called "Self Control" which does the same thing. There will be something similar for blocking certain apps.

Fortunately, the latest Fortnite update has arguably made the game less enjoyable laughing

I write as I am procrastinating. I have my final uni report due on Monday.

Good luck!


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 2115058 27-Oct-2018 16:19
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In my whare, we use a FritzBox. It has two wifi networks. One for me, and one for the kids. The kids wifi is only available between 7am - 10pm. The Fritzbox has a web interface I believe, which would allow you to turn either all wifi or just the second wifi on and off as needed, or be schedule based (like it is here). As mentioned by another poster, a powerline device doesn't use wifi so time to hide those away too!


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  Reply # 2115063 27-Oct-2018 16:34
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You can with Google Wifi. Get a three pack and you should be right.





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  Reply # 2115093 27-Oct-2018 18:37
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A Frtiz!Box will allow you to assign time and max time use per device. A Synology router will have similar features.

 

You could install Norton Family in both PC and tablets and manage time available for each - obviously you should have an account in the Administrator group for yourself and let your son's account as Standard so he can't uninstall Norton.

 

How old is your son?







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  Reply # 2115116 27-Oct-2018 19:21
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A couple of comments above - 'a powerline adaptor doesn't use WiFi, so turning WiFi off isn't going to stop the PC having a network connection - what does it use?




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  Reply # 2115117 27-Oct-2018 19:23
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freitasm:

 

A Frtiz!Box will allow you to assign time and max time use per device. A Synology router will have similar features.

 

You could install Norton Family in both PC and tablets and manage time available for each - obviously you should have an account in the Administrator group for yourself and let your son's account as Standard so he can't uninstall Norton.

 

How old is your son?

 

 

 

 

James is 16.  Norton Family - can I install on his iPhone as well?  And control it all remotely by an app?


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  Reply # 2115141 27-Oct-2018 19:52
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http://family.mcafee.com/ - Norton Safe Family sounds like a good solution for what you need.





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  Reply # 2115148 27-Oct-2018 20:02
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A powerline adapter is used to run ethernet through your power cables - it's generally used to avoid using a wifi connection. Lower latency and higher reliability than wifi. A computer connected through one is like being connected with a physical cable.


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  Reply # 2115185 27-Oct-2018 20:36
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Can't you use the new screen time feature in iOS to limit what he does on the iPhone?




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  Reply # 2115193 27-Oct-2018 21:00
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Can't you use the new screen time feature in iOS to limit what he does on the iPhone?

 

 

 

 

Will have a look, but could he not just override it or find a way around it?  He's 16

 

 




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  Reply # 2115194 27-Oct-2018 21:02
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RunningMan:

 

A powerline adapter is used to run ethernet through your power cables - it's generally used to avoid using a wifi connection. Lower latency and higher reliability than wifi. A computer connected through one is like being connected with a physical cable.

 

 

 

 

Hmm, does it avoid the router all together -if not, then controlling his access through the router would still work, yes?


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  Reply # 2115197 27-Oct-2018 21:12
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dfnt:

 

Can't you use the new screen time feature in iOS to limit what he does on the iPhone?

 

 

 

 

Will have a look, but could he not just override it or find a way around it?  He's 16

 

 

 

 

I haven't looked into it but I believe you set a password.

 

If you disable wifi then the iPhone just uses cellular so that won't prevent him from doing things on the phone




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  Reply # 2115220 27-Oct-2018 21:42
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Yes - you're right about can use data on cellphone  :(


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  Reply # 2115231 27-Oct-2018 22:27
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There have been other threads about such issues

 

If he's motivated to circumvent your blocks then he will be able to. He has the support tens of thousands of other people who can show him what to do.

 

It will generally cost you more to block him than it will cost him to circumvent your controls. So the more money he has then the more options he can pursue.

 

If he has physical access to the router then you've made it really easy to beat the most common controls. It might be as simple as him buying a duplicate router.

 

Personally, I would block access to types of websites (gaming, social media, pornography, etc) using content filtering at my ISP. There is no option to bypass it by doing anything at my house - as long as he doesn't get your password to log into the control panel. The filtering should allow you to customise which groups of websites are blocked. You'd have to check with the ISPs whether they also allow individual websites to be blocked. I used to use such content filtering / parental control when we were with the ISP Watchdog - it worked well. 

 

Spark Net Shield https://www.spark.co.nz/getmore/netshield/  - You can get Basic for free and you can turn on the advanced option, which provides time of day blocking, for $5 a month.

 

Slingshot https://help.slingshot.co.nz/hc/en-us/articles/360000047893-Family-Filter-FAQs?_ga=2.33405174.991366950.1540631105-704254018.1540631105

 

Orcon Family Filter https://help.orcon.net.nz/hc/en-us/articles/115004267194-Family-Filter-FAQ

 

Stuff Fibre Safezone https://stuff-fibre.co.nz/safezone

 

Compass CyberGuardian Family Filter https://compass.net.nz/residential/family-filter


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