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  #2496069 1-Jun-2020 12:07
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hawkthorne:

 

Having said that, is my desire to get a new router warranted at all? I mean, I just thought that with such a fast connection, it'd make sense to make the most out of it with a high-tech router, but maybe I'm on a fast track to waste my time and money?

 

 

Fast wifi is best added with a seperate accesspoint. All the gaming features on these fancy routers are made for people with slow connections to prioritize the gaming traffic. Anything like that on a decently fast connection needs way more computer horsepower than a cheap router chipset offers. If you are saturating the gigabit download or half gigabit upload making gaming lag out, then start looking for solutions but as it is, all those things do is queue up packets and try to serve them out in a different order. And they cant keep up with gigabit.

 

If you start to want vlans and parental controls and scheduled times etc for kids, then this is often best done with a second router behind the main on, and the kids are the only things on the second router so double nat and slowness isnt an issue for them, and you can use that to block it when they should be sleeping etc.





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  #2496563 2-Jun-2020 11:17
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‘TheMaskedOnion’ is my new favourite userid. It’s up there with ‘elpenguino’.

 

 

 

 

I couldn't agree more


 
 
 
 


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  #2497301 3-Jun-2020 11:28
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I'm using an R7000 and it happily achieves line speed on my gigabit connection as long as CTF is enabled. With CTF disabled (i.e. running in software mode) it will do about 300/300 with basic features enabled (port forwarding, NAT loopback and fancy real-time stats on, but no QoS).

 

CTF works fine both in the original Netgear firmware and in Freshtomato.

 

It's a perfectly fine choice for gigabit if you are happy to use CTF (meaning port forwarding works but most other "advanced" features don't).

 

All but the most expensive modern routers struggle to route full gigabit without CTF anyway. You're really best to use x86 or a beefy Edgerouter if that's what you want to do, rather than any consumer gear.


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  #2497380 3-Jun-2020 14:06
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Also - assuming your "old" Fritzbox is a 7490, that is a much, much slower router than the R7000. It uses an old 500Mhz VRX200 chipset (circa 2013) and would be lucky to route even 100Mbps in software (compared to the 300-400Mbps an R7000 can manage). Like everything else, the 7490 relies on hardware offload to route gigabit. If you are getting gigabit speeds on a 7490 but not on an R7000, it is a settings issue.

 

If it's a 7590, that's indeed much faster than the R7000 and you should use it instead. But it's not "old" :)

 

R7000 (CTF off)

 

 

   Speedtest by Ookla

 

     Server: Spark New Zealand - Auckland (id = 11327)
        ISP: Spark New Zealand
    Latency:     0.91 ms   (0.07 ms jitter)
   Download:   345.92 Mbps (data used: 156.2 MB)
     Upload:   277.90 Mbps (data used: 139.1 MB)
Packet Loss:     0.0%

 

R7000 (CTF on)

 

 

 Speedtest by Ookla

 

     Server: Spark New Zealand - Auckland (id = 11327)
        ISP: Spark New Zealand
    Latency:     0.87 ms   (0.75 ms jitter)
   Download:   916.19 Mbps (data used: 412.9 MB)
     Upload:   515.47 Mbps (data used: 478.6 MB)
Packet Loss:     0.0%

 

To sum up, because on re-reading your first post I don't think you were really after a super technical answer...

 

Both the R7000 and Fritzbox use CPUs from around 2013. The Fritzbox has a slow one, the R7000 has a faster one (though still slow by today's standards). Without using any tricks, the Fritzbox can route around 100Mbps, while the R7000 can route around 300Mbps. When using the "trick" of hardware offload/CTF, both the Fritzbox and R7000 can route gigabit speeds. If you are only getting 200Mbps with your R7000, it's because you have enabled a combination of features that disables CTF. Try resetting the router to factory settings and trying a speed test again. It should be your full line speed.


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  #2514646 29-Jun-2020 17:07
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allio:

 

Both the R7000 and Fritzbox use CPUs from around 2013. The Fritzbox has a slow one, the R7000 has a faster one (though still slow by today's standards). Without using any tricks, the Fritzbox can route around 100Mbps, while the R7000 can route around 300Mbps. When using the "trick" of hardware offload/CTF, both the Fritzbox and R7000 can route gigabit speeds. If you are only getting 200Mbps with your R7000, it's because you have enabled a combination of features that disables CTF. Try resetting the router to factory settings and trying a speed test again. It should be your full line speed.

 

 

 

 

@allio - What hardware would you recommend for a modern setup. I really enjoy the flexibility  OpenWRT/dd-wrt/Tomato provide me so I'd like a device I can put an Open Source firmware onto.

 

Right now I've got Tomato on an r7000





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