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timmmay
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  #2546838 21-Aug-2020 09:29
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Alternately powerlink network with another access point in another part of the house.


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  #2546839 21-Aug-2020 09:31
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While not always the best solution, how about a powerline unit of some style ??

 

TPLink have a range of units which are priced well as a test ??

 

PB have them


 
 
 
 


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  #2546840 21-Aug-2020 09:32
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timmmay:

 

Alternately powerlink network with another access point in another part of the house.

 

 

Must try to press submit button as fast as Timmmay! :-D


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  #2546841 21-Aug-2020 09:34
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Batman:

 

Johnny67:

 

No, we have solid concrete floors, also flat roof so no roof space to run it through either. If only it were that easy!

 

 

still easier to run ethernet cable i reckon.

 

 

Not always.  I put in a pair of Ethernet over power units  to  solve this problem at my place when the ONT  was put in on the other side of the house to where the office was. 





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  #2546842 21-Aug-2020 09:35
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PLC based solutions are another rabbit hole of pain and suffering as they are at the mercy of continual network changes at 50Hz that do impact performance at the PLC band of operation. End result, works good now, a heater turns on and its all over rover, and you have no certainty or easily repeatable conditions to control it.

 

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  #2546849 21-Aug-2020 09:46
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cyril7:

 

PLC based solutions are another rabbit hole of pain and suffering as they are at the mercy of continual network changes at 50Hz that do impact performance at the PLC band of operation. End result, works good now, a heater turns on and its all over rover, and you have no certainty or easily repeatable conditions to control it.

 

Cyril

 

 

Have had to use Powerline units over the years of all makes and models. Across the board the early units where not that forgiving however most of the units available in the last ~2 years do seem to work well and in general meet their stated speeds etc.

 

Having said that, being aware of what on the same circuit is always a good idea just in case.

 

 

 

 


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  #2546851 21-Aug-2020 09:46
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I had a similar issue when my parents had Fibre installed. Installed put ONT where their main phone was (which is OK, it's in the Kitchen area, near TV etc.). Issue was that Dad's office was through a couple of walls, and he had a network printer (wired, no WiFi).

 

I initially installed powerline adaptors between ONT and office, and put his (Spark supplied) router in there. It worked perfectly fine in there, but we then found WiFi performance in Lounge, Kitchen, Dining and outdoor area was poor.

 

I got him an Orbi set (Orbi master and one Satellite). Haven't looked back. Master is next to ONT, and satellite in Office. This ends up covering the whole house, and outdoor area. Orbi connected up fine and no noticeable speed losses (they only have 100/20 Fibre).

 

 

 

OP, you could look at a Mesh solution like Orbi. Orbi doesn't use your WiFi bandwidth to create it's mesh (it does use Wireless, but it's own backhaul channel).


 
 
 
 


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  #2546894 21-Aug-2020 10:49
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timmmay:

 

Alternately powerlink network with another access point in another part of the house.

 

 

This is the most cost effective solution

 

 


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  #2546924 21-Aug-2020 11:24
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Plus 1 for powerlink. I have had a D-Link one for about 7 months and it has been great. In that time one of the units has needed a pwr off twice, and it seems to have occurred at night, not when appliances have been switched on/off. Three green LEDs=good, a red one=unplug/replug! 

 

 Just my experience, not a warranty statement!


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  #2546961 21-Aug-2020 12:23
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If there's no way to run fibre or ethernet under the floor or in the roof, moving the ONT would surely mean changing the location of where the fibre enters the building. This could involve trenching, or a bunch of external conduit.

 

Personally, I'd be looking at a decent wireless mesh setup as suggested by others. Your scenario is exactly what they are for: getting decent wifi throughout your entire house, without having to run cable.

 

 


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  #2547168 21-Aug-2020 17:39
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djtOtago:

 

So how do you expect the fibre installer to get the cable to the new location?

 

 

 

 

By running the external cable further down the fence line and into the house at a different point.


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  #2547171 21-Aug-2020 17:48
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sampler:

 

While not always the best solution, how about a powerline unit of some style ??

 

TPLink have a range of units which are priced well as a test ??

 

PB have them

 

 

 

 

Have these but  they arent that reliable, something to do with there being two electrical circuits (old house with newer extension). Have also tried using network extenders with little success.

 

 

 

On balance i think i will take a serious look at a mesh set up.

 

 

 

thanks for all the replies :)


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  #2547248 21-Aug-2020 18:25
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Can’t speak enough for using an orbi unit, we are using one at present due to the house we purchased having a shocking install job by chorus for fibre and ONT placement (and the house being 10 years old, concrete floors etc). The previous owners and installers had rocks in their heads (or just generally incompetent).

 

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The 3 unit orbi works great in sending the internet to all corners of the house, section and beyond.

 

 

 

 


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  #2547384 21-Aug-2020 23:44
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As others have stated, only Enable can move your ONT, but the request to do this must come from you via your RSP.

 

Details here: https://help.enable.net.nz/hc/en-us/articles/360041826733-I-would-like-the-Optical-Network-Terminal-ONT-at-my-home-business-moved

 

In the case of a complex ONT move (which yours certainly sounds like) they will do a scope visit to size up the job, and will then prepare a quote which will be passed to you via your RSP. Once you accept the quote, Enable's tech will return to do the work and your RSP will bill you upon completion.

 

It's worth noting that your original ONT installation is not "free" - the true cost is subsidised 100% by the network owner and the government. A standard installation has a true cost typically between $1500-$3000, and in some cases more.

 

There is no subsidy available when moving fibre network on your property, so you will be asked to pay 100% of the actual costs. Think about this - if they have to undo half of the installation work they have already done at your house and then reroute/reinstall it all at a different location, then it's feasible that it could cost you $750-$1500. You won't know until you get to quote stage, but at least you have the ability to cancel at that point with no obligation to proceed.





The views expressed by me are not necessarily those of my employer Chorus NZ Ltd


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  #2551533 28-Aug-2020 19:15
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Just to add some closure to this post.

 

 

 

I was able to use a Netgear Orbi RBK50 and neither wireless or wired from it were at all of use, slowest conenction ive had sine the 1990's!

 

 

 

I was also able to sample, and subsequentally purchase, D-Link Covr 2200, has made an amazing difference- wifi stable and im connected to my main PC by ethernet from the staellite with almost full speeds (200Mbps)

 

 

 

Very pleased I was talked into a more simple option :)


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