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webwat
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  #2573129 23-Sep-2020 23:52
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If you find some accesspoint hardware you can run from one of your TV location outlets then maybe it doesn't look so bad mounted on the ceiling, depending on whether you have any furniture next to it to distract from the weird cable in the middle of the wall.

 

Wondering why you would be running an AppleTV over wireless when you have TV ethernet outlets on the wall that could give you Gigabit as well as offloading some traffic from the potentially congested wifi. Are some of your ethernet links faulty? Should be easy to fix.





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  #2573167 24-Sep-2020 07:57
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webwat:

 

If you find some accesspoint hardware you can run from one of your TV location outlets then maybe it doesn't look so bad mounted on the ceiling, depending on whether you have any furniture next to it to distract from the weird cable in the middle of the wall.

 

Wondering why you would be running an AppleTV over wireless when you have TV ethernet outlets on the wall that could give you Gigabit as well as offloading some traffic from the potentially congested wifi. Are some of your ethernet links faulty? Should be easy to fix.

 

 

 

 

Just reread OP's post and noted the issue with the location of the ethernet ports.  Unifi do an 'in wall' unit which could replace the RJ45 socket which gives a couple of outlets

 

If the wall construction is plasterboard you can, with only a little repair work, get the wire through to emerge at a lower point (I did this with our wall mounted TV).


 
 
 
 


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  #2580315 6-Oct-2020 20:46
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webwat:

 

If you find some accesspoint hardware you can run from one of your TV location outlets then maybe it doesn't look so bad mounted on the ceiling, depending on whether you have any furniture next to it to distract from the weird cable in the middle of the wall.

 

 

Yeah, nah, visible cables are just not my bag sorry. Have successfully setup a unifi in-wall HD in one of the tv locations though so that's a great solution!

 

 

 

webwat:

 

Wondering why you would be running an AppleTV over wireless when you have TV ethernet outlets on the wall that could give you Gigabit as well as offloading some traffic from the potentially congested wifi. Are some of your ethernet links faulty? Should be easy to fix.

 

 

I think I will try and sort hard wiring the apple tv somehow but the issue at the moment is that particular wall outlet has a single power socket, which is powering the TV. There are other power sockets at floor level and HDMI cables routed behind the wall to there, but with no ethernet. Just poorly planned by sparky and I was having enough trouble convincing the wife that we even needed tv's on the wall without having to pay extra for more power/ethernet etc... To do it I would just need a double adapter but can't play with one to see what will fit without taking the tv off the wall again. Re: too hard basket right now.

 

Regardless, my current setup now has an AP in the lounge which is directly through the wall the TV is on so AppleTV now has excellent signal anyway.


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  #2580319 6-Oct-2020 20:53
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kiwibob1:

 

webwat:

 

If you find some accesspoint hardware you can run from one of your TV location outlets then maybe it doesn't look so bad mounted on the ceiling, depending on whether you have any furniture next to it to distract from the weird cable in the middle of the wall.

 

Wondering why you would be running an AppleTV over wireless when you have TV ethernet outlets on the wall that could give you Gigabit as well as offloading some traffic from the potentially congested wifi. Are some of your ethernet links faulty? Should be easy to fix.

 

 

 

 

Just reread OP's post and noted the issue with the location of the ethernet ports.  Unifi do an 'in wall' unit which could replace the RJ45 socket which gives a couple of outlets

 

If the wall construction is plasterboard you can, with only a little repair work, get the wire through to emerge at a lower point (I did this with our wall mounted TV).

 

 

Got a UAP-IW-HD to go in the office / spare room wall socket which is perfect, so thanks for all that suggested that. 

 

 

Slightly gutted that it has to mount sideways but that's the only negative so far.

 

 

 

 


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  #2580326 6-Oct-2020 21:10
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So now I have a USG (3P) setup in wall unit under the stairs. That and the small switch I have take up far less room which is a good thing, it's a very small wall unit/cabinet. Plus i'm enjoying the 'tinkerability' of the whole unifi eco-system.

 

I'm still using the Smart Mesh in the lounge but I will replace this with a UAP of some kind soon hopefully. One day, when Ubiquiti launch their Wifi6 AP's i'll replace them both with those probably, and fingers crossed there's a newer, more capable USG-3 type device in the works (I've read their is but nobody knows what exactly).

 

MacBook Pro is now easily getting 750+ regularly and every now and then i'll get a solid 800-something.

 

 

I realise this is all just for show really, but i'm stoked with the outcome just the same.

 

 

 

After further testing (and reading) I find the iPhone 11 Pro just won't push much past 650-700. It's 2x2 MIMO where as the MacBook Pro is 3x3 so that's the key difference there. I'll need a Wifi 6 AP to push it any higher. This Duckware link has been golden in terms of understanding what's going on and what to expect: https://www.duckware.com/tech/wifi-in-the-us.html

 

 

 

All in all I have to say that actually the Spark Smart Modem and Smart Mesh devices are still brilliant devices. With very little tweaking and able to get a solid 500Mbit out of the box, most people would never complain, and actually after a fair bit of channel swapping and positioning I did eventually get the Smart Modem up to low 700Mbit speeds (on MacBook Pro). I now realise too that running it 'meshed' I was never going to get great speeds out of the setup, that was my misunderstanding of what 'mesh' means. Plus I had the devices positioned totally wrong for the mesh setup anyway. 

 

I'm still yet to confirm this 100% but I actually think the biggest weakness these devices have, which for most people will be it's strength, is the fact that even when you run them both and setup the Smart Mesh hard-wired, the Smart Mesh becomes a 'dumb' unit and configures itself off of the Smart Modem. What this means is essentially 2 AP's running on the same channel and same power setting, which is not ideal. I always felt that even when the Smart Mesh was hard-wired, it was when I had them both running that my speeds decreased a fair bit. With just the Smart Modem and my Unifi AP, I could get much better speeds from the Smart Modem itself, and equally now the Smart Mesh + USG + UAP. This is because when the Smart Mesh runs stand-along you can configure it on a different 5Ghz channel. If there is a way to do this with the Smart Modem and Smart Mesh combined then they would be a killer setup for the money, but I don't think you can.

 

 

 

Anyway, i'm really just posting all of this so that anybody else in my situation may find it one day. It's been a fun exercise and i've learned a lot. Thanks to all that have helped out in here too. 


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  #2580378 6-Oct-2020 22:24
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That is a great result and you should be seriously proud of that. I get on average 650Mbit from my IW-HD on my MacBook Pro. As you’ve already found the UniFi ecosystem is a money trap as you always want more (switches etc also) to add to it.

But seriously good job.




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  #2580387 6-Oct-2020 22:48
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Mosbo:

Got a UAP-IW-HD to go in the office / spare room wall socket which is perfect, so thanks for all that suggested that. 



Slightly gutted that it has to mount sideways but that's the only negative so far.


 


 



Nice, I love how slick the Unifi IW looks on a wall

Don’t beat yourself up too much about it been mounted sideways, now you have 4 usable ports for hardwired devices in that location also


 
 
 
 


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nztim:
Mosbo:

Got a UAP-IW-HD to go in the office / spare room wall socket which is perfect, so thanks for all that suggested that. 



Slightly gutted that it has to mount sideways but that's the only negative so far.


 


 



Nice, I love how slick the Unifi IW looks on a wall

Don’t beat yourself up too much about it been mounted sideways, now you have 4 usable ports for hardwired devices in that location also



Out of interest - can you use bare solid Ethernet cables to connect to these IW units? Or do you have to have preterminated cables running through the walls to plug into the back of them?

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  #2580566 7-Oct-2020 11:25
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Hi, you could have solid cables with RJ45 plugs fitted, the rear connector of the IW is a standard RJ45 socket. If you dont like putting plugs on, you could terminate on an RJ45 socket, connect a short patch lead and leave all that inside the wall space.

 

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  #2580571 7-Oct-2020 11:33
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PJ48:

Out of interest - can you use bare solid Ethernet cables to connect to these IW units? Or do you have to have preterminated cables running through the walls to plug into the back of them?

 

 

 

My cables in the wall were terminated with a socket as they were setup for TV's to be mounted. I just left the socket on there and ran a short patch cable to the back of the IW unit.


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