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Wannabe Geek

# 31459 18-Mar-2009 15:17
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Hi Guys, I am a very junior geek aspirant, and have just installed an Ubernet wireless connection for my main computor and a linked laptop. What router should I install to switch from Telecom to World Exchange and still use my existing phone, or do I need a different phone as  well as a router?

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Uber Geek


  # 201932 18-Mar-2009 15:53
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If I am not mistaken the Ubernet radio contains a router, so all you need is a ATA. What router do you currently have.


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  # 201958 18-Mar-2009 16:43
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Hi Cyril, thanks for reply, the only box connected is an SP605K Etherfast switch which is connected directly to the feed from the "line of sight ' exterior box which picks up the transmission from a remote Ubernet transmitter.  I hope to dispense with Telecom's exorbitant standing charges and link home and international calls with World Exchange, and at the same time I want to be able to access the internet by WiFi from different areas in or around the house. I don't know if I am restricted to using World Exchange equipment or maybe find cheaper alternatives available elsewhere.


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Uber Geek


  # 201973 18-Mar-2009 17:13
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Hi Zep6 from a fellow Northlander and WorldxChange VFX user for the past 3 years.

In early 2006 I dispensed with my Telecom landline for the same reasons you mentioned.  The Ubernet service provides ample bandwidth for VoIP and because it seems from Cyril7's post that your Ubernet Radio also contains a Router I would recommend getting the cheapest/simplest ATA which is a Linksys PAP2T.  This is also the easiest device to setup for WxC's VFX service.  The only significant limitation of the PAP2T is that it doesn't support faxing, but that doesn't matter to many people these days.

It has become a little hard to find the PAP2T recently, but there are a couple on Trade Me for $140 at present:

I also just found some in stock for $145 at PB Tech. here:

This is much cheaper than the next device up the scale which is the SPA2102 from DSE @ $229.

You can plug any standard phone (including cordless) into the PAP2T but you may need an RJ11 to BT adaptor or modem cable in order to do this.

If you want to use WxC's VFX service, then you are restricted to using either a Linksys device, or Asterisk.  There are many Asterisk experts on this forum, so I won't attempt to explain it, other than to say it is much more complicated than a simple ATA such as the PAP2T.

If you want to do the Wireless Access Point all in one device, Linksys do have the WRP400, but I can't find any of the online retailers who are offering it at present.  If it were my money, I would look for a separate Wireless Access Point.  They are cheap as chips now.

Well, that should be enough info. to get you started.  If you have any further questions, feel free to ask.  There are many VoIP enthusiasts here on Geekzone and you should be able to get answers to just about any question you can think of.


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  # 201974 18-Mar-2009 17:18
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+1 on what Grant says, all you need is a basic ATA that Xnet support such as the PAP2T, however this all assumes the radio is not just a bridge but includes a router. I can only gleen what I can from their website, but does the radio have a brand/model, also if you type IPCONFIG at a command prompt what comes back. But the fact you have a simple switch and multiple PCs indicates a NAT router is either in the radio or upstream of it.


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Wannabe Geek

# 201983 18-Mar-2009 17:33
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Many thanks guys, I'll give it a whirl with the suggested kit and look forward to cheaper and more cheerful phone calls. 

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  # 205764 7-Apr-2009 15:30
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Hi Dave

Just thought I should pop in here and confirm a few things, and also add my suggestions

First off, feel free to give me a ring in the office (09 4385472 ask for Steven), as I have a lot of experience with VoIP over our network.

The hardware suggested is fine for you setup except the wrp400. Our experience has not been the greatest with these.

If you’re going with a recommended SPA2102 make sure it’s in bridge mod otherwise you will start double NATing your traffic which is not the best idea on VoIP

The other thing I would also suggest is to put the SPA unit in first, before the switch.

PAP2t's work good also, obviously you cannot put them before the switch.

In regards to our equipment, yes it is a router which controls and delegates DHCP/Nat

You may also what to check out our phone service here.

Cheers guys




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