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  Reply # 1100249 1-Aug-2014 18:27
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richms: Go buy a cheap ES desklamp or similar to play with. Clamp on ones are only $7 or so at bunnings I think. Just check they are ES as often the display one is ES but the ones in the boxes are B22.


Might just do that considering the adapters are the same price!

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  Reply # 1100257 1-Aug-2014 18:50
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richms: 

Doesn't matter, the SDOC is prepared by the importer so if you haven't got one, no sparky in their right mind will connect it up.



http://www.med.govt.nz/energysafety/forms/declaration-forms/supplier-declaration-form


Manufacturers, importers and agents are required to complete a Supplier Declaration of Conformity form before certain products can be sold or offered for sale in New Zealand.


Not selling .. so according to the govt website, I don't need to complete a SDoC.

I can see a current SDoC for these switches on one of the NZ websites though ...


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  Reply # 1100270 1-Aug-2014 19:32
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Well no sane sparky will install gear that a user has sourced without a SDOC so unless you know a cowboy sparky then you will not be getting them installed.

The SDOC is offered by the people that are selling it, to the ones that they supply, it doesnt matter that you see a same looking item being sold on another site, because they are not supplying it so their SDOC is irrelevent. If you want to go BSing your sparky by providing them the SDOC for the one that you can buy locally along with your self imported switches then that is your call.




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  Reply # 1100290 1-Aug-2014 20:09
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richms: Well no sane sparky will install gear that a user has sourced without a SDOC so unless you know a cowboy sparky then you will not be getting them installed.

The SDOC is offered by the people that are selling it, to the ones that they supply, it doesnt matter that you see a same looking item being sold on another site, because they are not supplying it so their SDOC is irrelevent. If you want to go BSing your sparky by providing them the SDOC for the one that you can buy locally along with your self imported switches then that is your call.


I've quoted the govt website that says a sdoc is only required if onselling.

Perhaps you'd care to find a reference that states that a sdoc needs to be sighted before something can be installed?

And as far as I can see, a sdoc can be filled in by anyone and does not need to be submitted to anyone either.  So, it's quite appropriate if needed for me to copy an existing sdoc for the same product if I were to onsell ( which I'm not doing ).


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  Reply # 1100303 1-Aug-2014 21:05
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Its in the requirements they have to do with the code compliance cert that the sparkys have to do. I will ask my tame sparky next time I am fixing their computers what the exact requirements are for installing self sourced electricals, but I do know that asking for the sdoc for any gear they are not familiar with is the norm, that is why lighting plus etc all put them on their website.




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  Reply # 1100694 2-Aug-2014 16:34
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yeah richms is correct, you can not go self importing and/or self installing Inwall Dimmer switches without risk of invalidating your house insurance, not to mention the safety of loved ones. Stick to the big name brand RF wall switches such as GE (yes they are sold on places like ebay). although, those are not compatible, nor related to LimitlessLED. Make sure it supports 240V for AU/NZ/ZA, there is a lot out there that only supports 110V. In my opinion, I haven't see any inwall RF switches that look very nice.  Instead of RF wall switches, You should put an Android 5" device on top of each wall switch, and control the lights via wifi.

Cheers,
Hamish.

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  Reply # 1100702 2-Aug-2014 16:46
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gchiu:
tchart: 

Did you order the wrong type?


I bought the pendant lights with Edison fittings a couple of days ago, but need to wait for the electrician to wire the lights up, and make them live.

There's no way to put individual switches by the lights so that's why I've gone for wifi lights.  And I'm also ordering RF controlled light switches from Aliexpress but that will only turn on/off both lights together.
 

 
I see you got the E27 RGBW Kit.   so you say pendant lights? is that what you mean by LimitlessLED RGBW pendant lightbulbs?   why do you need an electrician to change a light bulb?   if you bought and installed a new recessed light fitting that has B22, just send the kit back and I can swap it out for if you need E27 or B22 to match your fittings. No need for adapters.  do you mean RF controlled remote?  there are no RF wall light switches that are compatible to milight/limitlessled.

 

 

 

Cheers,
Hamish.-LimitlessLED.

 

 

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  Reply # 1100793 2-Aug-2014 18:52
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LimitlessLED: 
 
I see you got the E27 RGBW Kit.   so you say pendant lights? is that what you mean by LimitlessLED RGBW pendant lightbulbs?   why do you need an electrician to change a light bulb?

  if you bought and installed a new recessed light fitting that has B22, just send the kit back and I can swap it out for if you need E27 or B22 to match your fittings. No need for adapters. 


I've just a couple of wires hanging out of a hole in the ceiling at present.  The light fittings with their 1.8 m long cords that will hang from the ceiling are still in boxes.  No need to swap the lights.

  LimitlessLED: 

do you mean RF controlled remote?  there are no RF wall light switches that are compatible to milight/limitlessled.   Cheers,
Hamish.-LimitlessLED.  


The RF wall light switches will have their own remotes.  To be used if someone by accident turns off the lights at the wall.

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  Reply # 1101336 3-Aug-2014 22:27
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Just an FYI but Limitless are now selling smaller 6W light bulbs. Awesome!

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  Reply # 1102057 4-Aug-2014 20:22
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I got the $7 lamp from Bunnings in the weekend, and after puzzling over the instructions, managed to get control over the light both using the remote and my iPod touch.

And it was just a few lines to turn the lamp on using my Windows 8.1 tablet

 

lights: open udp://192.168.1.124:8899

 

insert lights #{220055} ; turns light on

 

close lights

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  Reply # 1102142 4-Aug-2014 21:35
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gchiu: I got the $7 lamp from Bunnings in the weekend

sweet yeah, just the $7 E27 desk lamp is good enough to get started until you get your big pendant fittings installed to your ceiling.

gchiu: And it was just a few lines to turn the lamp on using my Windows 8.1 tablet lights: open udp://192.168.1.124:8899 insert lights #{220055} ; turns light on close lights


what windows8.1 scripting engine is that? PowerShell or similiar?

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  Reply # 1102155 4-Aug-2014 21:59
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LimitlessLED:

what windows8.1 scripting engine is that? PowerShell or similiar?


Not specifically Windows, it's Rebol as http://www.rebol.com/download.html

so runs on most platforms in one form or another, with and without a GUI.
 


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  Reply # 1118319 30-Aug-2014 02:48
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gchiu:

 

lights: open udp://192.168.1.124:8899

 

insert lights #{220055} ; turns light on

 

close lights

 

 

use the broadcast address instead, it is more reliable because you may not always know the dhcp ip address of the wifi bridge. use this instead:

 

lights: open udp://192.168.1.255:8899

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  Reply # 1118336 30-Aug-2014 07:17
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Yes, I tried that as well and it worked.

The only issue I have now is that the bulb is just a tad too big for the fitting ( there's a glass sleeve it has to pass thru which I've removed temporarily ).

Are you going to get smaller bulbs made?

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  Reply # 1128121 13-Sep-2014 23:30
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gchiu: Yes, I tried that as well and it worked.

The only issue I have now is that the bulb is just a tad too big for the fitting ( there's a glass sleeve it has to pass thru which I've removed temporarily ).

Are you going to get smaller bulbs made?


yes we now have smaller ones available on our website.

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