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  #1959686 17-Feb-2018 19:39
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  #1959854 18-Feb-2018 12:41
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richms:

 

For lights, the arilux ones are my go to ones now, great strong RGB in them compared to the sonoff ones, and really cheap too. App connects to my US amazon account fine and you just use the lamp name in the "alexa desklamp on" or "alexa brass lamp blue"

 

 

 

 

I can't seem to see any smart bulbs in stores that are of the bayonet type, which (I am only guessing here) most NZ homes would have? Why are stores only stocking the edison screw-type, or is that because they come from America?


 
 
 
 


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  #1959866 18-Feb-2018 12:51
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I got some b22 wifi lamps off ebay which also use the same app as the arilux leds, but the RGB is the inferior small sized LEDs in them, not the bigger powerful ones like in the arilux. Took forever to arrive even tho coming from china too, and it looks like it was slow to be shipped, not the shipping time.

 

Was this listing here. Have some lamps that have old time looking brass lamp holders in them so not able to change them over. Most of the other stuff is screw in.

 

I thought I would change my batten holders over to the cheap deta e27 ones from bunnings, and that was fine, but when I take the converter ring off the shade, the hole is too large to go onto those e27 holders so its just a bare lamp till I get around to printing my own converter rings out that have the right sizes for those lamp holders.

 

 

 

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  #1959959 18-Feb-2018 16:09
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I also note that it is apparently illegal to sell edison-to-bayonet adapters in New Zealand... This certainly lessons the number of things you can buy.

 

 

 

https://www.trademe.co.nz/trust-safety/2017/2/22/edison-bayonet-lamp-adaptor/


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I use TradeMe  a lot for buying all sorts,better than ebay or amazon as freight is cheaper,no customs charge,easier to ask/get replies to questions,no exchange rate to worry about,


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  #1959970 18-Feb-2018 16:21
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I use TradeMe  a lot for buying all sorts,better than ebay or amazon as freight is cheaper,no customs charge,easier to ask/get replies to questions,no exchange rate to worry about,

 

 

I find the opposite. Terrible sellers even when using the "in trade" filter, a disastrous search feature that gets all sorts of junk and a marketplace that couldnt really give a crap so long as they still see their fee from the seller.

 

Also $7 across the country is way more expensive than free from china.





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  #1959971 18-Feb-2018 16:22
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da5id:

 

I also note that it is apparently illegal to sell edison-to-bayonet adapters in New Zealand... This certainly lessons the number of things you can buy.

 

 

 

https://www.trademe.co.nz/trust-safety/2017/2/22/edison-bayonet-lamp-adaptor/

 

 

Thats a new one on me. I know that there is problems with most Chinese sourced e27 holders failing all the tests because the outer thread is connected to one of the live wires, but some of them do have complient E27 sockets on them.





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  #1960367 19-Feb-2018 13:56
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richms:

 

Thats a new one on me. I know that there is problems with most Chinese sourced e27 holders failing all the tests because the outer thread is connected to one of the live wires, but some of them do have complient E27 sockets on them.

 

 

Any links to a compliant adaptor?

 

Or an easy way to tell?


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Look down the socket, if there is a giant metal thread on the outside with a connection to it, non complient. If the thread is plastic or metal, and there is a seperate contact on the outside at the bottom of the thread for the power connection, probably compliant. There is actual tests for this with standard fingers etc but pretty much any with the metal thread would let you have the finger on the thread and have it touch the metal thread, therefore connecting you to what is hopefully neutral. But when the top is a B22, its 50/50 which is neutral so compliant holders are extra important if you are clumsy and like to change bulbs when it is on.





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I switched entirely to Hue bulbs and the Hue bridge. That works with both the Dot and the GH.

 

It can get expensive since you need a smart bulb for each socket but at least they work.

 

I did try using Insteon switches to control a switch and so 5 bulbs at once but that was not great. Since 240V Insteon doesn't have Alexa support I had to use HABridge on a RPi to emulate an Hue bridge. The Dot sees both bridges and can control them all, where as the GH can only see one bridge (the real one). So it cannot control the Insteon bridge.

 

I am not thinking of ditching the Insteon and selling it (the controller, one wall plug and one in wall switch) and moving completely to Hue for bulbs and Dlink smart wall plugs for appliances.

 

I also have a Harmony Ultimate Home which one day I must get around to installing - currently just use a Harmony One which isn't smart but works fine. My wife doesn't like talking to Alexa so having her say Alexa, turn on the TV is going to be a bridge too far I think :-(





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  #1960741 20-Feb-2018 09:03
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Lifx

 

Are the bulbs i have brought they go great with Amazon Alexa, my 4 year old niece loves them lol


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  #1960757 20-Feb-2018 09:34
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richms:

 

Look down the socket, if there is a giant metal thread on the outside with a connection to it, non complient. If the thread is plastic or metal, and there is a seperate contact on the outside at the bottom of the thread for the power connection, probably compliant. There is actual tests for this with standard fingers etc but pretty much any with the metal thread would let you have the finger on the thread and have it touch the metal thread, therefore connecting you to what is hopefully neutral. But when the top is a B22, its 50/50 which is neutral so compliant holders are extra important if you are clumsy and like to change bulbs when it is on.

 

 

Thanks for the advice.

 

But thinking about it some more, what I actually need is "Bayonet to Edison" NOT "Edison to Bayonet". laughing

 

ie. The bayonet is on the light fitting and the screw thread is on the bulb.

 

So as long as the outer plastic casing extends past the end of the female screw thread on the bulb side its going to be quite difficult to make contact with a finger.

 

Quite why all the Hue starter kits are E27 is beyond me!

 

I've lived in three houses in NZ and all have had bayonet fixings. Its same in the UK, all the Hue kits are Edison but almost every light fitting will be B22.  


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  #1961733 21-Feb-2018 18:02
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evilengineer:

 

richms:

 

Look down the socket, if there is a giant metal thread on the outside with a connection to it, non complient. If the thread is plastic or metal, and there is a seperate contact on the outside at the bottom of the thread for the power connection, probably compliant. There is actual tests for this with standard fingers etc but pretty much any with the metal thread would let you have the finger on the thread and have it touch the metal thread, therefore connecting you to what is hopefully neutral. But when the top is a B22, its 50/50 which is neutral so compliant holders are extra important if you are clumsy and like to change bulbs when it is on.

 

 

Thanks for the advice.

 

But thinking about it some more, what I actually need is "Bayonet to Edison" NOT "Edison to Bayonet". laughing

 

ie. The bayonet is on the light fitting and the screw thread is on the bulb.

 

So as long as the outer plastic casing extends past the end of the female screw thread on the bulb side its going to be quite difficult to make contact with a finger.

 

Quite why all the Hue starter kits are E27 is beyond me!

 

I've lived in three houses in NZ and all have had bayonet fixings. Its same in the UK, all the Hue kits are Edison but almost every light fitting will be B22.  

 

 

 

 

Are you planning on using these with the Amazon Echo, or Echo Plus? I bought an Echo Plus today from JB Hi-Fi and it comes with either a Bayonet bulb or an Edison Bulb. I bought the one with the bayonet bulb, as those are the fittings I have. The Echo Plus comes with it's own hub, so works with the Hue bulbs straight away. If you just want to buy the cheaper (and better looking) Amazon Echo (2nd Gen), you can buy the Philips Hue hub later on (which JB sell separately for $99) and some Hue Bayonet bulbs (which JB sell for $29 each). JB also sell the TP-Link edison bulbs which don't require a hub so will work with the Echo (2nd gen) and which come with an adapter in the box (bayonet to screw, so you can use the screw bulbs). The TP bulbs sell for $68 each (is the same as this)

 

 


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Just thought I would mention that Echo spot arrived from the states yesterday. Plugged in all good, turned its nose up a couple of times at the wifi I have both the whatever they are called frequencies? but after 3rd attempt went through and updated. Then I added it to the Smart Group I did have to set the area but found my address. as so far all is working well. That with a show and a couple of the little echo thingys. Youshop charged $19.50 NZD to ship to me   





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  #1962199 22-Feb-2018 12:56
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The more I use echo the more useless I find it.

 

 

 

Currently waiting for a Google Mini to arrive c/o dick smith.. probably travelling by kayak from Australia

 

 


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