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  #1241256 18-Feb-2015 08:38
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First impressions: 24 hours with the LG G watch R:

I have come from the Pebble and Pebble Steel. Some short comparisons with that:

1. This thing needs an ambient light sensor. Having to dim the display at night and wind it up again during the day does my head in. The e-paper of the Pebble was readable all the time, day or night (with the backlight). I might to have to look at some tasker integration (but I shouldn't have to). I may not be able to use it at work as in the dark work environment it throws off heaps of light.
2. It is "more useful" than the Pebble. Things generally work better. The Pebble was pretty much all push from phone to pebble. Android Wear has a lot more interactivity. Being able to actually do stuff on the watch that relates to the internet is good. Things like a calculator which works amazingly well are great.
3. Wear is getting there. Swiping the correct way took a while to get to used to.
4. Low uptake for Wear is a problem. There is going to be a squillion people buying Apple Watches in April. They are all going to tell us how amazing their Apple Watches are which do all the same things do that Wear was doing 6 months ago. 
5. Battery life. Coming from the pebble I used to throw the pebble at the charger once a week. Now it is charge every night. This is not really a problem just different. I would love to see a weeks battery life on these things.
6. Water proofing. Sure, It is IP67 but I am not going to jump in the pool with it. The Pebble doesn't care what you throw at it.

In summary, it is great but not mind blowingly awesome. The Pebble definitely has some pluses... Which to keep..... Oh the agony of First World Problems!

Cheers, Matt.




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  #1241260 18-Feb-2015 08:45
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to be fair, the battery once a day charge is no surprise.  I doubt we will see a lot of improvement on this for years to come.  we might get another day or 2 at the very best, but it will be a long while before we can get a week out of these things.  so as long as you dont have a problem putting it on charge when you go to sleep at night, its a non issue.  you can buy a secondary charge from ebay for about $20 (i might get one for work just in case).

im finding it difficult to find a great watch face, wanted one that shows a step counter (using google fit, not their own).  the ones I've tried have all been rubbish.  and I can't find a good running app that doesn't require you to take your phone with you.  

what calculator are you using?  the one I tried would always crash when it was opened.

 
 
 
 


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  #1241271 18-Feb-2015 08:53
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I just installed this one and it seems to work ok;

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=rocketstartups.wearcalculator&hl=en

Numbers are pretty small but that is the nature of the beast with these devices I guess!

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  #1241275 18-Feb-2015 08:55
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  #1241384 18-Feb-2015 10:40
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Yeah. The battery thing is fine. Especially as I have plenty of battery left at the end of the day. Having to charge during the day would make it unusable.

This is the calculator I am using:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jee.calc&hl=en




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  #1241513 18-Feb-2015 12:11
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I just realized I have a stuck / dead pixel on the top left hand of the watch. 
I was hoping it to be gone by running the stuck pixel app but did not make a difference. 

I will probably return it and get a replacement / repaired in the weekend. 

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  #1241515 18-Feb-2015 12:16
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maxeon: I just realized I have a stuck / dead pixel on the top left hand of the watch. 
I was hoping it to be gone by running the stuck pixel app but did not make a difference. 

I will probably return it and get a replacement / repaired in the weekend. 

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Looks more like damage or a leak than a stuck pixel, which are usually limited to the area of a pixel, or several pixels.

 
 
 
 


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  #1241523 18-Feb-2015 12:20
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macuser:
maxeon: I just realized I have a stuck / dead pixel on the top left hand of the watch. 
I was hoping it to be gone by running the stuck pixel app but did not make a difference. 

I will probably return it and get a replacement / repaired in the weekend. 

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  Looks more like damage or a leak than a stuck pixel, which are usually limited to the area of a pixel, or several pixels.


It was out of the box that way, I hardly used the watch, and started to notice that today. It has grown in the last 24 hours. 

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  #1241532 18-Feb-2015 12:31
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maxeon:
macuser:
maxeon: I just realized I have a stuck / dead pixel on the top left hand of the watch. 
I was hoping it to be gone by running the stuck pixel app but did not make a difference. 

I will probably return it and get a replacement / repaired in the weekend. 

Click to see full size


  Looks more like damage or a leak than a stuck pixel, which are usually limited to the area of a pixel, or several pixels.


It was out of the box that way, I hardly used the watch, and started to notice that today. It has grown in the last 24 hours. 

 

 

 

Oh I'm not saying you did it, just that it looks like its from damage or a leak!  Definitely take it back

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  #1241785 18-Feb-2015 16:10
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Its warm in Western Springs 35? Hi, Low and current are all the same using Watchmaker.




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  #1241817 18-Feb-2015 17:07
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Blanch: Its warm in Western Springs 35? Hi, Low and current are all the same using Watchmaker.





I always had problems with watchmaker and weather updates.
I don't use watchmaker any more because of GPS issues it had with the one+

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  #1241834 18-Feb-2015 17:36
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reven: to be fair, the battery once a day charge is no surprise.  I doubt we will see a lot of improvement on this for years to come.  we might get another day or 2 at the very best, but it will be a long while before we can get a week out of these things.  so as long as you dont have a problem putting it on charge when you go to sleep at night, its a non issue.  you can buy a secondary charge from ebay for about $20 (i might get one for work just in case).

im finding it difficult to find a great watch face, wanted one that shows a step counter (using google fit, not their own).  the ones I've tried have all been rubbish.  and I can't find a good running app that doesn't require you to take your phone with you.  

what calculator are you using?  the one I tried would always crash when it was opened.


I think in the coming couple of years with the new iwatch, technology is going to improve significantly.  I think an eink colour type of display is really needed, for lower power consumption. I think the battery life equivalent to that of a kindle is needed, eg once a month charge. WIth normal watches, you would expect them to last many years, upto a decade if not longer for a premium one. But these types of watches must only have a life of a few years, unless they have an easy user replaceable batteries, and the tech in them gets dated.  People won't want to be changing watches as quickly as they change phones. Not unless they have replaceable modules inside them that can be swapped out. 

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  #1241845 18-Feb-2015 17:57
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mattwnz:
reven: to be fair, the battery once a day charge is no surprise.  I doubt we will see a lot of improvement on this for years to come.  we might get another day or 2 at the very best, but it will be a long while before we can get a week out of these things.  so as long as you dont have a problem putting it on charge when you go to sleep at night, its a non issue.  you can buy a secondary charge from ebay for about $20 (i might get one for work just in case).

im finding it difficult to find a great watch face, wanted one that shows a step counter (using google fit, not their own).  the ones I've tried have all been rubbish.  and I can't find a good running app that doesn't require you to take your phone with you.  

what calculator are you using?  the one I tried would always crash when it was opened.


I think in the coming couple of years with the new iwatch, technology is going to improve significantly.  I think an eink colour type of display is really needed, for lower power consumption. I think the battery life equivalent to that of a kindle is needed, eg once a month charge. WIth normal watches, you would expect them to last many years, upto a decade if not longer for a premium one. But these types of watches must only have a life of a few years, unless they have an easy user replaceable batteries, and the tech in them gets dated.  People won't want to be changing watches as quickly as they change phones. Not unless they have replaceable modules inside them that can be swapped out. 


I'm not sold on that, battery power hasnt improved all that great in the last few years, smartphones are lasting about aslong now as they did when the first ones came out, no huge improvements.  eink colour will certainly improve battery life, but how far away is colour eink? (not something I've kept up on).  

I do think its reasonable with a smart watch to replace it every 2 years or so, they will get dirt cheap ~$100 for a fairly decent one. 

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  #1241849 18-Feb-2015 18:03
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reven:
mattwnz:
reven: to be fair, the battery once a day charge is no surprise.  I doubt we will see a lot of improvement on this for years to come.  we might get another day or 2 at the very best, but it will be a long while before we can get a week out of these things.  so as long as you dont have a problem putting it on charge when you go to sleep at night, its a non issue.  you can buy a secondary charge from ebay for about $20 (i might get one for work just in case).

im finding it difficult to find a great watch face, wanted one that shows a step counter (using google fit, not their own).  the ones I've tried have all been rubbish.  and I can't find a good running app that doesn't require you to take your phone with you.  

what calculator are you using?  the one I tried would always crash when it was opened.


I think in the coming couple of years with the new iwatch, technology is going to improve significantly.  I think an eink colour type of display is really needed, for lower power consumption. I think the battery life equivalent to that of a kindle is needed, eg once a month charge. WIth normal watches, you would expect them to last many years, upto a decade if not longer for a premium one. But these types of watches must only have a life of a few years, unless they have an easy user replaceable batteries, and the tech in them gets dated.  People won't want to be changing watches as quickly as they change phones. Not unless they have replaceable modules inside them that can be swapped out. 


I'm not sold on that, battery power hasnt improved all that great in the last few years, smartphones are lasting about aslong now as they did when the first ones came out, no huge improvements.  eink colour will certainly improve battery life, but how far away is colour eink? (not something I've kept up on).  

I do think its reasonable with a smart watch to replace it every 2 years or so, they will get dirt cheap ~$100 for a fairly decent one. 


I am happy with my chronograph casio edifice, which is solar powered, so never have to worry about charging it, and it is a very nice watch. Prior to this I had an Omega which I had to wind every couple of days, which is similar to charging, and I found that to be a PITA. But I can see them building smart features into more conventional watches, and them having a longer life, but it is the smart features that will age these devices as the technology changes. It is the LED backlighting, or the OLED that uses the power. I find the biggest problem with smartphones and similar devices to be the battery life. If apple came out with a new iphone that lasted a week without charging and was slightly thicker, then I think that would be a huge seller.

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Can't see why people are confused about the name. LG (Company) G (Google) Watch (self evident) R (Round). It would have been more strange if they'd called it Herbert.

I am disappointed notifications don't fit properly on the round screen and they are more difficult swipe away than on a square screen. Google's write up on the ethos behind wear points to it being a glance interface with high levels of now integration. The more manufacturers and owners try to make it 'watch like' the further removed from Google's vision it becomes. But it looks better. I was reading an interview with Sir Jonny Ive about the Apple Watch where he stated that the shape for his design was square because that was better for displaying lists.

Battery life so far is about two and a half days and it charges up pretty quickly. So I don't know why people keep saying it needs to be charged each night. Same for the SW3 which was usually yelling for a recharge in the afternoon of the third day. The battery life is what it is. There was consternation in the tech press when it was revealed Apple's offering would only last a day. Our android device is already doing much better than that. Remember when the Gear first came out? Its battery life was atrocious.

The strap is softening up with use. I do prefer an over centre clasp to a buckle though. The only downside of the clasp is it can spring open if jarred or caught on something. So guess this strap is not all bad. I'll use it till it looks tatty and then look for a replacement.




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