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reven

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#1710424 27-Jan-2017 08:17

Bought them from Venluree. they work as a momentary switch so similar to a garage door, so a wemo maker works well with them. Well so I've been told, won't have them installed for another month or so.

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SomePostman

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#1710426 27-Jan-2017 08:20

Can you guys please start your own thread? I keep getting email notifications for this off topic conversation.

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#1710427 27-Jan-2017 08:33

plas:

Same, I installed 3 switches the other weekend and bought 2 of the wall sockets. They work well for $40, but my god is the Wemo app rubbish. Security on them is a bit of a worry as well so I'm going to stick them in their own network and deny internet access.

I complained so much about that. Apparently running accountless is a design decision they will not be changing.

So anyone that can get on your network and find them in the app will have remote control of them, you cannot give remote control of only 1 of the devices to someone else, and the only solution it seems to revoke remote control is to factory reset the one in question and re-set it up. Cant change what wifi they are connected to without giving them individually a factory reset and then manually connecting to its SSID and running the app. Just in generally a horrible product design when you have 15+ of them and want to use _one_ of them to reboot a server and give a friend access to that one only.

The giant size of the sockets is making me regret getting so many of them. Need a 5 outlet wide spaced powerstrip just to fit 3 of them in, whereas the smaller of the esp8266 based chinese ones, the xiaomi ones and some others will stack side by side in a normal spaced strip.

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#1710436 27-Jan-2017 08:48

-_-

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#1710439 27-Jan-2017 08:58

SomePostman:

As I see it, I've got a few options, each with pros and cons. The window bars and dobermans aren't really an option, but thank you all for your feedback.

Cleverloops

Pros - moderately priced, online app, no ongoing subscription
Cons - No audible alarm, no window/door sensors
Morepork

Pros - no upfront cost (at least with current sale), audible alarm and door/window sensors
Cons - ongoing cost that would cost more than cleverloops after year 2
Tranditional alarm system

Pros - known entity
Cons - will never know if it's activated (don't want monitored)
Other system - like importing a iSmartAlarm system or similar. I see at least a few kiwis have done this.

I like the idea of an audible alarm because at least if someone got into the house, they will know they have been detected and will get out ASAP. If they don't, then the police will be on their way (hopefully)

What way would you lean?

Most modern traditional alarms set ups can be configured to call your mobile when activated, so you do know when activated.

Blanch

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#1710544 27-Jan-2017 10:50

plas:

reven:

OT this is what I use for the wemo devices.

https://sites.google.com/site/mppsuite/downloads/wemoserver-java

Just run the server jar on a linux VM. doesnt work with long press yet (wemo hasnt exposed that, they might have recently since you can now create rules with it) but has a nice double click feature. I use this to turn all the lights off upstairs/downstairs. Also use the double click on a wemo light switch to trigger a wemo maker (will be using this for my electric curtains when they are installed)

I've ended up using openhab2. Now this is going OT but where did you buy your electric curtains from ? I had a look on google and really didn't see many options for NZ.

Hi plas, can you share your openhab2 items and sitemap for your wemo maker? I'm having a few issues with the sensor with the reed switch.

SomePostman

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#1710688 27-Jan-2017 14:50

I'm going to order the clever loop system with two indoor and one outdoor camera. Rather than having free standing cameras or cords hanging down the wall, I was thinking of getting an electrician friend to provide power in the ceiling and connect the cameras via WiFi. But then it occurred to me- it seems like it would be better to use PoE; that way it is a wired data connection and I wouldn't need an electrician.

I was thinking a 4 port PoE capable switch, that I would plug into my router. Then run ethernet cable through the ceiling to the 3 camera locations and use the PoE adaptors for the Smart Loop system.

Does this sound like a decent solution?

Jexla

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#1711386 29-Jan-2017 16:55

Quick question regarding monitored alarms. What do you think the security guy is going to do if he even gets to your place in time to find the burglars?

I'll tell you what, he's going to sit in his car and call the police, who are also even more so unlikely to get there in time.

plas

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#1713059 31-Jan-2017 07:47

Jexla:

Quick question regarding monitored alarms. What do you think the security guy is going to do if he even gets to your place in time to find the burglars?

I'll tell you what, he's going to sit in his car and call the police, who are also even more so unlikely to get there in time.

I've had a security company tell me that I had to investigate the building late at night because the burglars might still be inside. They really are no better than getting an alert sent to your phone.

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#1713078 31-Jan-2017 08:49

Yeah, no surprises.

It's funny how many people (even here!) are tricked by this fake sense of security by security companies, in order to sell their useless service.

Lastman

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#1713082 31-Jan-2017 09:00

plas:
Jexla:

Quick question regarding monitored alarms. What do you think the security guy is going to do if he even gets to your place in time to find the burglars?

I'll tell you what, he's going to sit in his car and call the police, who are also even more so unlikely to get there in time.

I've had a security company tell me that I had to investigate the building late at night because the burglars might still be inside. They really are no better than getting an alert sent to your phone.

Presumably you didn't want to pay for the security company to do it.

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