Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.




1352 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 179


# 210496 30-Mar-2017 08:30
Send private message

I've been intrigued by the idea of smart lighting for a while, but have been put off by the fact I couldn't think of a justifiable use case (other than the cool factor of being able to remotely control lights), and the fact that the brightness maxed out at about 60W (most of our house uses 100W or 125W CCFL).  But then I hit upon a useful idea - fitting Hue bulbs in the bedroom of my daughter and programming it to gradually lighten over the course of an hour, simulating sunrise.  She's 2.5 years but wakes like a teenager, and especially with the end of daylight savings making it dark even at 7am, I'm thinking that a sunrise simulator might help make the mornings easier.  It also wouldn't hurt to have that in our bedroom too.

 

So, the wife is on board and I'm looking at starter kits.  But I wanted to know if there was a better place to buy other than Mitre10/Bunnings/Noel Leeming.  Prices seem reasonably consistent among them, but I don't know if there's a cheaper way to buy.

 

Also, it looks like the kits are all Edison Screw bases.  We have bayonet fittings throughout out house (I actually thought everyone in NZ had bayonet fittings, so was surprised to see so many ES bases out there), so is it a case of buying invididual bayonet bulbs and a bridge separately, or is it easy enough to replace the bayonet fitting on my light fixtures with an ES fitting?


View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
 1 | 2 | 3
BDFL - Memuneh
63598 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 14079

Administrator
Trusted
Geekzone
Lifetime subscriber

27887 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 7374

Moderator
Trusted
Biddle Corp
Lifetime subscriber

  # 1750485 30-Mar-2017 08:38
One person supports this post
Send private message

Every good electrical wholesaler carries them. I know pricing is relatively fixed with pretty low margins so you won't see much of a discount.

 

 


 
 
 
 




1352 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 179


  # 1750487 30-Mar-2017 08:44
Send private message

Thanks.  I had a quick look at Amazon and it's about 20% cheaper to order through there, but no CGA protection. Looks like local is probably the best bet.

 

What about the bayonet vs edison screws?  Is it simple enough to convert my existing light fittings?


6611 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1316

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 1750489 30-Mar-2017 08:46
Send private message

Lizard1977: I actually thought everyone in NZ had bayonet fittings, so was surprised to see so many ES bases out there

 

While I think that's traditionally true, there are now quite a few imported ES fittings floating around. My place has a mixture, which is frustrating since I need to keep two sets of spare bulbs!


221 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 75


  # 1750496 30-Mar-2017 08:59
Send private message

Its not Hue but have you considered Limitless LED?

 

There is a long thread about them here on Geekzone.

 

They have a dev section with sample code and details for interfacing with various home automation systems. 

 

Edit: And they come in bayonet and screw. 




1352 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 179


  # 1750763 30-Mar-2017 16:09
Send private message

Thanks for the heads up.  Long thread is an understatement.  Geez, 4 years of posts to cover!

 

Limitless looks interesting, and the price is compelling.  What I haven't been able to confirm from reading all those posts is whether they are able to be programmed to fade up over a fixed period like the Hue's can.  Also, what happens if you just use the normal light switch?  It seems like it remembers the last state it was in, so presumably if it was dimmed and it was switched off at the wall, it will come back on "dimmed."  I'm wanting something that will be as "normal" as possible, to minimise confusion from the less technically-minded people that use our house from time to time.  The remotes are okay, but they aren't exactly discreet.

 

Finally, I have a Logitech Harmony Hub which seems to have integration for Hue products.  Does anyone know if the Limitless products can be made to work with the Harmony Hub?

 

 

 

 


61 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 7


  # 1750785 30-Mar-2017 17:00
One person supports this post
Send private message

I got mine from Mitre10.
From memory Noel Leeming had a sale, and had Mitre10 beat them by 15% with their price guarantee.
It isn't really a huge discount but was a reasonable saving, you'll just need to wait for someone to have it on special.
If you can't wait, I see Bunnings have their coloured bulbs at $77,  $1 less that Mitre10, so you could get 15% off Bunning's price.


 
 
 
 


5087 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 122

Trusted

  # 1750838 30-Mar-2017 18:56
Send private message

I just bought a hub and two bulbs (Edison) from Amazon UK for about $111 shipped here. That was cheaper than the $149 HN or Noel Leemings have. Not sure about CGA. Probably no warranty that could be used but Amazon re pretty good so in the worse case scenario I guess I could send them back. I intend to buy the additional bulbs here.

 

 

 

[EDIT] Amazon also had bayonet bulbs for sale





Staying in Wellington. Check out my AirBnB in the Wellington CBD.  https://www.airbnb.co.nz/rooms/32019730  Mention GZ to get a 10% discount

 

System One: Popcorn Hour A200,  PS3 SuperSlim, NPVR and Plex Server running on Gigabyte Brix (Windows 10 Pro), Sony BDP-S390 BD player, Pioneer AVR, Raspberry Pi running Kodi and Plex, Panasonic 60" 3D plasma, Google Chromecast

System Two: Popcorn Hour A200 ,  Oppo BDP-80 BluRay Player with hardware mode to be region free, Vivitek HD1080P 1080P DLP projector with 100" screen, Denon AVRS730H 7.2 Channel Dolby Atmos/DTS-X AV Receiver, Samsung 4K player, Google Chromecast, Odroid C2 running Kodi and Plex

 

 


BDFL - Memuneh
63598 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 14079

Administrator
Trusted
Geekzone
Lifetime subscriber

72 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 2


  # 1750974 30-Mar-2017 23:36
Send private message

Another option is LIFX bulbs. I was looking at HUE as well but the initial cost (3 bayonet base bulbs + hub) was a major deciding factor.

 

In the end I bought 3x LIFX bulbs and I can vouch for them, amazing output and great deep colours, and appears good build quality. The iphone app is good too. Can simulate sunrise like you want, in fact I have set it up in the bedroom in the same fashion.

 

Did some research on youtube etc and haven't come across anything negative.  Bought the bulbs locally and would recommend them for starters. Function wise same as Hue apart from Apple Homekit support..


14883 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2018


  # 1750975 30-Mar-2017 23:42
Send private message

freitasm:

 

Always good to remind people to use the Geekzone Amazon link...

 

 

 

 

Does that also work on Amazon UK purchases, or just US ones?


22154 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 4729

Trusted
Subscriber

  # 1750976 30-Mar-2017 23:50
Send private message

There is also the yeelight by mi off aliexpress in E27, not seen much in bayonet, if possible I just change the holder over.





Richard rich.ms

22154 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 4729

Trusted
Subscriber

  # 1750977 30-Mar-2017 23:51
Send private message

agent86:

 

I got mine from Mitre10.
From memory Noel Leeming had a sale, and had Mitre10 beat them by 15% with their price guarantee.
It isn't really a huge discount but was a reasonable saving, you'll just need to wait for someone to have it on special.
If you can't wait, I see Bunnings have their coloured bulbs at $77,  $1 less that Mitre10, so you could get 15% off Bunning's price.

 

 

You will probably find mitre10 have it on the shelf a few cents under bunnings price to stop that happening. They both do that with in store prices - bunnings are on orange cards when they do it, not sure on mitre10 because I try to avoid them.





Richard rich.ms

221 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 75


  # 1750981 31-Mar-2017 00:51
Send private message

Lizard1977:

 

What I haven't been able to confirm from reading all those posts is whether they are able to be programmed to fade up over a fixed period like the Hue's can.  

 

The Mi-Light android app has only a single on-off timer for each zone but the since the api and sample code are published it shouldn't be too hard to code a fade.     

 

Also, what happens if you just use the normal light switch?  It seems like it remembers the last state it was in, so presumably if it was dimmed and it was switched off at the wall, it will come back on "dimmed."

 

You are correct, if you switch it off and then on again at the wall it comes back in the same mode it went off.

 

I just did a test with mine using their sample windows app.

 

I sent it an a brightness 1% command followed by a light off command and then a brightness 100% command and then flicked the wall switch to see if that would cause it to come back on at 100% but it looks like it ignored the brightness command when it was in 'off' mode and came back at 1% brightness.   

 

Finally, I have a Logitech Harmony Hub which seems to have integration for Hue products.  Does anyone know if the Limitless products can be made to work with the Harmony Hub?

 

Not familiar with Harmony Hub but a quick google has people controlling MiLight/LimitlessLED strips with python scripts from a harmony remote.


61 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 7


  # 1750987 31-Mar-2017 02:24
Send private message

richms:

agent86:


I got mine from Mitre10.
From memory Noel Leeming had a sale, and had Mitre10 beat them by 15% with their price guarantee.
It isn't really a huge discount but was a reasonable saving, you'll just need to wait for someone to have it on special.
If you can't wait, I see Bunnings have their coloured bulbs at $77,  $1 less that Mitre10, so you could get 15% off Bunning's price.



You will probably find mitre10 have it on the shelf a few cents under bunnings price to stop that happening. They both do that with in store prices - bunnings are on orange cards when they do it, not sure on mitre10 because I try to avoid them.

Actually out of the two Mitre10 are usually more expensive. I bought my starter pack, additional bulb (beating NL by 15%) and dimmer switch(beating Bunnings by 15%).
But yeah they both have a price guarantee so you can go to the more expensive store to beat the other, unless of course they both have it for the same price.

 1 | 2 | 3
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic



Twitter and LinkedIn »



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

New Zealand PC Market declines on the back of high channel inventory, IDC reports
Posted 18-Jun-2019 17:35


Air New Zealand uses drones to inspect aircraft
Posted 17-Jun-2019 15:39


TCL Electronics launches its first-ever 8K TV
Posted 17-Jun-2019 15:18


E-scooter share scheme launches in Wellington
Posted 17-Jun-2019 12:34


Anyone can broadcast with Kordia Pop Up TV
Posted 13-Jun-2019 10:51


Volvo and Uber present production vehicle ready for self-driving
Posted 13-Jun-2019 10:47


100,000 customers connected to fibre broadband network through Enable
Posted 13-Jun-2019 10:35


5G uptake even faster than expected
Posted 12-Jun-2019 10:01


Xbox showcases 60 anticipated games
Posted 10-Jun-2019 20:24


Trend Micro Turns Public Hotspots into Secure Networks with WiFi Protection for Mobile Devices
Posted 5-Jun-2019 13:24


Bold UK spinoff for beauty software company Flossie
Posted 2-Jun-2019 14:10


Amazon Introduces Echo Show 5
Posted 1-Jun-2019 15:32


Epson launches new 4K Pro-UHD projector technology
Posted 1-Jun-2019 15:26


Lenovo and Qualcomm unveil first 5G PC called Project Limitless
Posted 28-May-2019 20:23


Intel introduces new 10th Gen Intel Core Processors and Project Athena
Posted 28-May-2019 19:28



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.


Support Geekzone »

Our community of supporters help make Geekzone possible. Click the button below to join them.

Support Geezone on PressPatron



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.