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  Reply # 1854968 29-Aug-2017 22:09
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I use sighthound but lately with the new releases , i find the detection has gone worse. Nowadays i have a 24x7 continuous recording to my NAS and only use sighthound to be alerted when there is some kind of motion that it thinks is human




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  Reply # 1855480 30-Aug-2017 20:09
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Cheers guys. I will try an all in one system next. It looks to be a better option than windows software. 


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1855498 30-Aug-2017 20:42
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The little white hikvisions are _so_ slow to export footage from. They work ok and are great to stick on a TV to watch cameras on. Just limited to 1080 and h264 last I looked at them.

Chinese firmwares not really a huge issue. Dates and stuff are the same format and playback controls are easy to understand. Just menu options need Google translate on the phone for setup but once done no big deal. Rather pay 1/3 the price of the local "won't sell to you because not a security installer" outfits and deal with Chinese TBH.




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  Reply # 1855704 31-Aug-2017 09:46
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If anyone is after one of those square White HikVision NVR's (4 x POE) I have a near new one for sale.

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1858989 5-Sep-2017 14:19
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My quick summary of the most popular camera-monitoring software...

 

 

BlueIris

 

 

Sophisticated triggering, e.g. from audio, external sensors, camera A triggers camera B. $60, and the usual caveats for Windows (see "Sighthound").

 

 

Sighthound

 

 

Very good (apparently) object/body detection, not just "have some pixels changed?". However, Windows based, needs a decent Windows PC, constant patching and updating. $60 + $12 yearly for two cameras, $250 + $50 yearly for > 2 cameras (ouch!).

 

 

XProtect

 

 

Enterprise-grade software (and that's not meant in a positive sense), installs SQL Server, IIS, opens ports, etc. Not really for home/small-scale users even if they have a lite version.

 

 

ZoneMinder

 

 

Linux-based, runs on anything, set it and forget it. OTOH since it's Linux- based it's a pile of daemons tied together with Perl scripts and PHP that you have to manage yourself. Can allegedly be triggered from X10 sensors, but documentation is sparse.

 

 

Conclusion

 

 

ZoneMinder seems to be no better or worse than BlueIris and XProtect in terms of motion detection, and doesn't require nursing a Windows PC for the rest of eternity to keep it running. The only obviously better one is Sighthound, but that's very pricey and again Windows-based.

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  Reply # 1859052 5-Sep-2017 15:31
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I use a combination of Sighthound for notifications (as its people detection and IFTTT integration is second to none) and Milestone Essentials for recording. Buying Sighthound for $250 is the best investment you can make.

 

Odd that no one has mentioned it runs on Mac. Sighthound integrates with IFTTT and can run commands based on detected events. So, for those of you who use Automator on Mac, you can do some pretty creative things.

 

The only negatives I can see re: Sighthound are it doesn't support using camera PTZ as part of actions. The web interface and mobile application are really basic. Certainly lacking in features. However, it is irrelevant as Sighthound push notifications are received within seconds, and emails to gmail arrive within 5 seconds including an attachment image (very important for threat identification).

 

However, some key reasons why I make it my main are:

 

1) Insanely accurate people detection with the ability to implement rules and schedules.

 

2) Extremely low CPU and RAM utilisation, when the main application is being run as a service (eg. you are not using it to display camera feeds).

 

3) Smart footage capture - it captures footage 24/7 and only purges 'non-notified' events once it runs out of the specified space permitted. So, events from two days ago, you can still access, but the footage either side of the event will eventually be replaced.

 

I use a combination of Dahua and Hikvision cameras. My preference is definitely with HikVision's mobile application for PTZ, but the image quality from Dahua is quite impressive.

 

My primary issue with Dahua and Hikvision is simply security. I cannot allow them onto the internet to send notifications or allow remote access because they are, in my opinion, simply not secure enough. I do not want my security cameras being hijacked and used as part of a bigger bot net so I isolate them. 

 

This is where Sighthound really shines, because it sends notifications using it's own push service.

 

Milestone is a great rock solid product. The 'essentials' version is basically a crippled NVR for recording. However, again, some key things to note. It's CPU utilisation is insane. It's camera compatibility is insane. It does support PTZ via it's mobile App, which has a decent UI. It's media management is decent. It's Client tool is OK.

 

Personally, if I had $85EU per camera to drop I'd go for Ksenos. This is some futuristic NVR. Download a demo if you get a chance. Their Mobile App is very decent. Their searching technology is super interesting (you paint areas of the image and it will show you on a timeline where movement in those blocks has been detected) and it has it's own IFTTT rules system (which needs some work).

 

I evaluated it, and really enjoyed it, but I couldn't justify the asking price for home office / property monitoring. Not when others are offering similar (albeit not as polished) solutions for free.

 

 


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  Reply # 1859109 5-Sep-2017 16:49
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premiumtouring:

I use a combination of Sighthound for notifications (as its people detection and IFTTT integration is second to none) and Milestone Essentials for recording. Buying Sighthound for $250 is the best investment you can make.

 

 

Yeah, if it weren't for the Windows thing I'd be getting Sighthound. As it is, I'll try ZoneMinder for now since I can drop it on any old leftover device (probably an ODroid) to play with, and if it's really as painful as it seems to be reconsider setting up a Windows box for Sighthound. What I really want is something that tells me if someone's walked up to the front door, so I don't really need all the sophistication of most high-end surveillance software with timelines, event search, ANPR, and so on.

 

 

A note for people not familiar with these things, Milestone == XProtect.

 

 

premiumtouring:

Personally, if I had $85EU per camera to drop I'd go for Ksenos. This is some futuristic NVR. Download a demo if you get a chance. Their Mobile App is very decent. Their searching technology is super interesting (you paint areas of the image and it will show you on a timeline where movement in those blocks has been detected) and it has it's own IFTTT rules system (which needs some work).

 

I evaluated it, and really enjoyed it, but I couldn't justify the asking price for home office / property monitoring. Not when others are offering similar (albeit not as polished) solutions for free.

 

 

I had a look at it but their web site is one of those designed-by-hipsters ones that'd be great for MOMA but next to useless for finding out what their product actually does. It's... some NVR software? I can't see anything obvious there that several other products don't already do in terms of motion detection and alerting.

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