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jonathan18
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  #2256515 12-Jun-2019 09:48
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LisaM77:

 

But I also discovered that Roomba have released 2 new models that aren't in NZ yet, and those new models are self-emptying and store maps, etc.  I think the only downside compared to the Mi was they need light to work so you wouldn't be able to run them at night (unless you schedule your lights to come on and off, and I don't have smart lights in much of the house yet).

 

 

Interesting - any idea of what price these new Roomba models may go for?

 

I can't imagine them not working in the dark thing is really an issue - do some people really run their cleaners at night when they're asleep? I'd certainly wake up, even if it was just doing the living side of the house!

 

I'd imagine there's a place for Xiaomi to release a top-spec model with additional features like self-emptying; these certainly don't have a large bin, so we empty ours every time it does the whole house (three times a week) - it may still work if we didn't do this, but vacuum cleaners often get less effective as they get full.


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  #2256952 12-Jun-2019 18:49
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They should be able to have an old dumb vac connected to a port on the base station and just run it for a few seconds when docked to suck all the crap out of the tiny inbuilt tank. Surely if you're getting a robo vac you already have a plug in dumb vac that you could just leave connected to the robo vac base station when not vacuuming the car out. Otherwise they are $70 at bunnings for a cheap ryobi.





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  #2266234 28-Jun-2019 12:55
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The new version of the Roborock S5 is out, imaginatively titled the S6. A review here on Android Central.

 

It seems to address one of the features I've highlighted as missing from the S5, notably the ability to identify and record rooms (both automatically and manually), and therefore easily clean specific set spaces. It wasn't clear from my reading whether the app let you group multiple rooms for scheduled cleaning, which is what I'd ideally want, but this is a big improvement.

 

It would be interesting to know if there are any real obstacles as to why this couldn't be retrofitted to the S5 (or even the Mi) via a firmware and app update, as opposed to it being Xiaomi doing what it can to encourage owners of earlier models to upgrade. I don't think this or other features (more power, quieter...) would be enough to make me upgrade from our S5.

 

What confuses me is why the 'official' importer of Xiaomi products continues to sell (in both it's Mi Store and PB Tech) the original model only - would be interested to hear why this is the case.


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  #2266244 28-Jun-2019 13:04
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I have always assumed that the app will be updated with the ability to add rooms as it seems like such an obvious feature.

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  #2266608 29-Jun-2019 09:12
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richms:

 

They should be able to have an old dumb vac connected to a port on the base station and just run it for a few seconds when docked to suck all the crap out of the tiny inbuilt tank. Surely if you're getting a robo vac you already have a plug in dumb vac that you could just leave connected to the robo vac base station when not vacuuming the car out. Otherwise they are $70 at bunnings for a cheap ryobi.

 

 

No thanks to leaving a vacuum cleaner sitting out in full view all the time.  We're lucky to get one clean before needing to empty from a standard vacuum cleaner anyway (large house). However, we have a central vac and if that could be rigged up to empty it, it would work.  But it would require the robo vac to have an external duct, and because you wouldn't want to be connecting every time you want to empty, you'd want the dock to permanently connect to it, and the contents to be sucked from the vac, through the dock, to the central.  That would be an epic set up, but probably only doable with the new models that have the capacity to hold more than the unit itself can take.  I very much like the idea of a robovac that empties itself via the central unit!

 

 


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  #2266612 29-Jun-2019 09:17
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jonathan18:

 

LisaM77:

 

But I also discovered that Roomba have released 2 new models that aren't in NZ yet, and those new models are self-emptying and store maps, etc.  I think the only downside compared to the Mi was they need light to work so you wouldn't be able to run them at night (unless you schedule your lights to come on and off, and I don't have smart lights in much of the house yet).

 

 

Interesting - any idea of what price these new Roomba models may go for?

 

I can't imagine them not working in the dark thing is really an issue - do some people really run their cleaners at night when they're asleep? I'd certainly wake up, even if it was just doing the living side of the house!

 

I'd imagine there's a place for Xiaomi to release a top-spec model with additional features like self-emptying; these certainly don't have a large bin, so we empty ours every time it does the whole house (three times a week) - it may still work if we didn't do this, but vacuum cleaners often get less effective as they get full.

 

 

In terms of cost, Roomba is already about double the Xiaomi.  The top Roombas currently available are ~$1500, so add a fair chunk to that.  Like I said though, some people (myself included) value the feature enough to pay the cost.  Add in the idea of hooking it up to the central vac and only have to empty every few months (see above post) and we're really on to something.  Just need it to do the stairs!


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  #2287081 1-Aug-2019 12:21
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I see that the Roborock S6 is now showing as available for order on the mi-store and at PBTech. $1099.


 
 
 
 


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  #2287434 2-Aug-2019 04:53
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jonathan18:

 

LisaM77:

 

But I also discovered that Roomba have released 2 new models that aren't in NZ yet, and those new models are self-emptying and store maps, etc.  I think the only downside compared to the Mi was they need light to work so you wouldn't be able to run them at night (unless you schedule your lights to come on and off, and I don't have smart lights in much of the house yet).

 

 

Interesting - any idea of what price these new Roomba models may go for?

 

 

Available in Noel Leeming 09-16 August for $1,999

 

https://www.noelleeming.co.nz/shop/household-appliances/vacuum-cleaners/vacuum-cleaners/robotic-vacuums/irobot-i7-i7-roomba-robotic-vacuum/prod182801.html

 

 

 

 

I'm perfectly happy with my Mi, although the self emptying feature is pretty cool. Unless you're a single balding bloke with no pets, I suspect you're still going to need to clean it 'properly' very regularly to remove hair from the brushes (/rubber rollers and side do-dacky and wheels)

 

 


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  #2287448 2-Aug-2019 08:17
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That's one thing that I like about the Roomba I wish the Xiaomi had... The rubber rollers. They pick up all hair, but doesn't get tangled up!




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  #2293096 9-Aug-2019 16:43
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hey all, just checking in, bought the roborock s5 based on reading this entire thread from start to finish!

 

probably the most amazing gadget that just does what it says on the box.

 

main problem was waiting for Dick Smith to deliver. I guess they order from whatever chinese supplier and it takes a month or so to get to them, then once they had it, it was sent within a day, and arrived within the week. so all good eventually.

 

I have this all setup and working with home assistant, working great.

 

now, just to get google assistant working to trigger the vacuum using zoned clean for full geek factor 🤓


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  #2293157 9-Aug-2019 19:18
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@alphastar - what particular commands and control can you issue via Google Assistant? Our S50 shows up as a device but I've not worked out what I can do via this, given I'd read it was fairly limited. Thanks!

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  #2293196 9-Aug-2019 20:10
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Hey there. I'm not seeing much out of the box with Google assistant and its erroring out right now. I'll tinker with it next week sometime.

It seems like there is potential discussed here; https://community.home-assistant.io/t/expose-vacuum-to-google-assistant/35182/17

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  #2297778 14-Aug-2019 06:43
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Looks like a new vacuum/mop combo is due to be released by Xiaomi in the coming days, as has gone up for preview on their Youpin site in China.

 

Youpin site (in Chinese) detailing vacuum

 

If you look at the Gear-best blog site (can't link here, won't allow me to post - search the blog for 'Xiaomi Mijia 2-in-1') you can get an English overview / run through. Seems to be a step up from the Xiaomi 1S vacuum as it does a combination of mopping and sweeping, more akin to the Roborock S50/S6.

 

I was about to pull the trigger on the S6, but will wait to see what initial reviews are like for this unit first once they start popping up on YouTube...


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  #2299322 14-Aug-2019 15:37
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Edwood:

 

Available in Noel Leeming 09-16 August for $1,999

 

https://www.noelleeming.co.nz/shop/household-appliances/vacuum-cleaners/vacuum-cleaners/robotic-vacuums/irobot-i7-i7-roomba-robotic-vacuum/prod182801.html

 

 

 

 

I'm perfectly happy with my Mi, although the self emptying feature is pretty cool. Unless you're a single balding bloke with no pets, I suspect you're still going to need to clean it 'properly' very regularly to remove hair from the brushes (/rubber rollers and side do-dacky and wheels)

 

 

 

 

I just picked up one of these yesterday, and so far it's amazing! I had always been interested in robot vacs but felt that it wasn't worth the hassle if I had to empty its bin - I wanted full automation or nothing. With the S9+ coming out recently I thought I'd stick it out and wait for that since it supposedly has better suction but after reading some of the reviews with people having a bunch of issues with it since this it's iRobot's first design update I figured I'd get the i7+ now and maybe pick up the replacement to the S9 in a few years.

 

Anyway, it feels really futuristic now setting my Roomba off to clean the house without having to worry about it. It'll trek around, returning to the base occasionally to empty itself or recharge before going out again and finishing the job. While the S9 has better suction, I can't say I'm disappointed with what my i7 is doing - out of curiosity I ran my Dyson over some spots that it had gone over and it didn't pick up anything extra that the Roomba had missed.

 

The only thing I wish iRobot would add in future generations is something that can detect pet messes so then I could use the scheduling feature while I'm away from home. My indoors only cat sometimes eats his food too fast or is just displeased in general with what he ate and vomit so I'd hate to come home to find the house painted with his creation. 


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  #2300087 16-Aug-2019 05:54
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OK, i'm officially a little bit jealous.

 

I do really like that thing @ face value and would trade my Mi for it... but my Mi was something like a third/quarter of the price! The bang for buck on my Mi is amazing. When Xiomi come out with the same thing it will be $1,000 and I might be ready for an upgrade. I really like the look of the mop/vaccum one too! (Thanks @majiktripp) I might just have to upgrade to that one while I wait!

 

I'll be super interested to see how you get on with it after a month or two. I have to empty my bin manually but I'm also cleaning the brushes quite regularly. No pets, or kids - here, just a wife, with hair - that's enough.

 

 

 

In other news... My Mi needs a service by someone smarter than me. 'Jasper' is doing a bit more squeaking than he should. Anyone know anyone who's capable & competent in Auckland? I could call PBTech or the Xiaomi store I guess...

 

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