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#1979603 19-Mar-2018 10:10

related, does anyone here use Zero Lacto milk in their frother? When we use the frother in our Nespresso with zero lacto ( which I have to have) the milk goes very thick almost cream like. Any ideas?

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#1979632 19-Mar-2018 10:30

I have the base model (brought in the UK for about 300 pounds ($600) on sale). There are new models now, but they are the same underneath. The equivalent seems to be the ESAM04110B.

It has a steam-based milk frother, which is a manual process and requires a jug and cleanup. The coffee itself is at the touch of a button, just select the strength and length (adjust for your cup size and preference) and go, for an espresso or long black.

I tend to have black coffee these days, but if I feel like a white coffee I just add un-frothed milk most of the time.

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#1979668 19-Mar-2018 10:57

Thanks

I have a Nespresso U at home but the aerocinno is now left unused as I find it too cumbersome.

We have a Breville Creatista at work , which has the separate wand for the milk and I like the coffees that it makes.

I need to convince my better half to buy a new machine.

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#1979674 19-Mar-2018 11:03

MikeB4:

related, does anyone here use Zero Lacto milk in their frother? When we use the frother in our Nespresso with zero lacto ( which I have to have) the milk goes very thick almost cream like. Any ideas?

I've not tried Zero Lacto but I have recently switched to Meadow Fresh milk which is permeate free. Not that I have anything against the standardisation of milk using permeate but I just find the Meadow Fresh milk which is permeate free produces a nice micro-foam during texturising and a fuller mouth feel more akin to full cream milk even though we always use the lite reduced fat variety.

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#1979675 19-Mar-2018 11:03

my advice is to watch for them to be on sale will make the SWMBO problem a lot easier. They tend to come on sale a couple of times a year (I watch as I don't want to live without one should mine ever need replacing, having said that no signs of a breakdown in 8 years of use)

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#1979689 19-Mar-2018 11:16

MikeB4:

related, does anyone here use Zero Lacto milk in their frother? When we use the frother in our Nespresso with zero lacto ( which I have to have) the milk goes very thick almost cream like. Any ideas?

I'm not familiar with zero lacto but both almond and soy milk froth. Rice milk froths. Oat milk doesn't

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#1979820 19-Mar-2018 13:07

MikeAqua:

MikeB4:

related, does anyone here use Zero Lacto milk in their frother? When we use the frother in our Nespresso with zero lacto ( which I have to have) the milk goes very thick almost cream like. Any ideas?

I'm not familiar with zero lacto but both almond and soy milk froth. Rice milk froths. Oat milk doesn't

Very true.

The creatista was on a Harvey N special for $400 during sales, but I think my next coffee machine should be one where I can use fresh beans

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#1979845 19-Mar-2018 13:29

I have a Bosch all in one at work which has now done 19000 cups

and a saeco one at home which uses the same internals and are often seen on trade me

for a reasonable price but none today.. I only drink black coffee so dont use the frother.

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#1979920 19-Mar-2018 15:19

qwertee:

I think my next coffee machine should be one where I can use fresh beans

I've never found one that automatically grinds the beans and makes good coffee.

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#1980189 19-Mar-2018 22:19

AS stated above the Breville BES870 gets a good rating from Consumer can be purchased for around $650 when on sale and wkill do everything except roast the beans. (I have a separate Roaster)

Here is a pix Breville BES870

it makes consistemtly good coffe and is way cheaper than other machines on market. I have no connection with the company

MikeAqua:

I think my next coffee machine should be one where I can use fresh beans

I've never found one that automatically grinds the beans and makes good coffee.

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#1980203 19-Mar-2018 23:15

MikeB4:

related, does anyone here use Zero Lacto milk in their frother? When we use the frother in our Nespresso with zero lacto ( which I have to have) the milk goes very thick almost cream like. Any ideas?

Does it make the coffee to thick?

You could try adding some cold water to the Zer Lacto before you froth it?

Preferably refrigerated water.

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#1980294 20-Mar-2018 08:46

ronw:
AS stated above the Breville BES870 gets a good rating from Consumer can be purchased for around $650 when on sale and wkill do everything except roast the beans. (I have a separate Roaster)

Here is a pix

it makes consistemtly good coffe and is way cheaper than other machines on market. I have no connection with the company

If you refer to Mike’s original post, he’s after a fully auto model for a good reason. I’ve never tried a coffee from such a machine that’s anything to write home about, but totally get it in this circumstance.

That Breville is supposed to be a good machine, but is only a semi automatic (the only automated thing is it measures water, and I assume the grinder doses specific measurements, so not suitable for the OP. Personally, I’d avoid this model as it combines the grinder and espresso in one unit, and I’m not convinced that storing beans within a hot appliance is the best thing. Also, there’s the risk that comes with machines like DVD/VCR combos, that when one part breaks...

But, yeah, personally I think the quality of coffee from even cheap manual/semi auto machines can be far superior to that from fully automatic espresso machines or pod machines (I just bought a Sunbeam Mini Barista half price for $250 for use at work, and am really surprised how good the coffee is), but there are more variables to personally control, it’s a lot messier, more time-consuming... hence why many are drawn to the convenience of pod-based and automatic espresso machines.

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#1980342 20-Mar-2018 09:20

Love my Saeco Royal 20759 shots of espresso made as of today,

Drinking coffee from it now.

Purchased mine in 2003ish for $2300

Have had to replace pump and grinder, and an element $750 appox for 15 years of service.

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I have a Bosch all in one at work which has now done 19000 cups

and a saeco one at home which uses the same internals and are often seen on trade me

for a reasonable price but none today.. I only drink black coffee so dont use the frother.

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#2087117 10-Sep-2018 19:14

michaelmurfy: I just buy the recycling bags (I believe they're $2) and drop them into the post shop when filled.

Actually I was reading the Nespresso site yesterday (to find their contact number) and realised they now have agreements with 250+ garden centres around New Zealand to collect their capsules for recycling. I visited Twiglands (Johnsonville/Churton Park) today and dumped years of capsules I have been accumulating in storage (always meant to drop at the Nespresso store in WLG but never got around it).

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#2087124 10-Sep-2018 19:41

freitasm:

michaelmurfy: I just buy the recycling bags (I believe they're $2) and drop them into the post shop when filled.

Actually I was reading the Nespresso site yesterday (to find their contact number) and realised they now have agreements with 250+ garden centres around New Zealand to collect their capsules for recycling. I visited Twiglands (Johnsonville/Churton Park) today and dumped years of capsules I have been accumulating in storage (always meant to drop at the Nespresso store in WLG but never got around it).

Interesting. I work next door to the Nespresso store in Wellington so could just drop my capsules in there going forward.

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