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  # 2279388 19-Jul-2019 03:55
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Yeah I looked at tinycam pro, it does do the job but most likely at a significant battery hit for your phone. I'm curious if anyone has used the cams with a dahua NVR, like the amcreat setup mentioned earlier. The amazon links would be helpful. Thanks

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Ultimate Geek


  # 2284542 27-Jul-2019 12:59
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Good to know it's not just me wondering what happened to something that appeared to be a good system that came to my attention originally through this very site.

 

Currently having various parts of the system drop offline for no apparent reason and in some cases refusing to come back online for hours.  Not really something you want in a security system.

 

Looks like I'll need to investigate a replacement option.  The Amcrest setup will be my first port of investigation I think.  Initial glance from the discussions above look like it'll be a close match to what I've got.

 

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A quick look doesn't seem to indicate if they can output to a NAS unit rather than a HDD?  Is this a thing?  Given I have several TB of NAS available rather than purchasing yet more HDD.





 
 
 
 


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  # 2284549 27-Jul-2019 13:37
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I invested in an Amcrest system to replace Cleverloop but depending on your use case, it may not be the best solution. Firstly, their software is not particularly user friendly (especially trying to work directly on the NVR) and takes quite a bit of effort to get it set up. I had to spend over an hour with them on a support call to figure out why it would recognise some of the cameras, but the main issue for me is that as there is no geo-activation feature, you have to arm/disarm it manually every time you leave/return if you want notifications on your phone. If this was a 1-click process it wouldn't be a major issue but it's multiple clicks for each camera! Yes, you can setup a schedule and rely on email notifications but that doesn't help if you keep irregular hours.

 

Personally I'm waiting for Camect to be launched, looks like it could be a good replacement for Cleverloop - https://camect.com/.


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  # 2284593 27-Jul-2019 15:36
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benz1:

 

I invested in an Amcrest system to replace Cleverloop but depending on your use case, it may not be the best solution. Firstly, their software is not particularly user friendly (especially trying to work directly on the NVR) and takes quite a bit of effort to get it set up. I had to spend over an hour with them on a support call to figure out why it would recognise some of the cameras, but the main issue for me is that as there is no geo-activation feature, you have to arm/disarm it manually every time you leave/return if you want notifications on your phone. If this was a 1-click process it wouldn't be a major issue but it's multiple clicks for each camera! Yes, you can setup a schedule and rely on email notifications but that doesn't help if you keep irregular hours.

 

Personally I'm waiting for Camect to be launched, looks like it could be a good replacement for Cleverloop - https://camect.com/.

 

 

Interesting issue that one.
Even without the Geo-arm feature working for CleverLoop, it is still a one click arm/disarm for all cameras.





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  # 2284654 27-Jul-2019 18:54
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geoffwnz:

A quick look doesn't seem to indicate if they can output to a NAS unit rather than a HDD?  Is this a thing?  Given I have several TB of NAS available rather than purchasing yet more HDD.

 

 

They will talk to some NASes, also email and FTP as an option.

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  # 2289618 4-Aug-2019 14:22
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Hello all,

 

 

Long time stalker, lots of good infos here.

 

 

I am a long time Cleverloop user, about 3 years. I managed to re-purpose the camera (I have 3) with Shinobi CCTV - I can't just throw it away, spent some little fortune on it.

 

 

Apology for a shameless plug, I published a little blog about my setup - hope it will help you out. Open for questions, comments and suggestion. I just made it running few days ago - so far it's going well

 

 

medium.com/@mindginative/migrating-cleverloop-cctv-to-shinobi-open-source-cctv-e5458fb6b4e

 

 

thanks

 

rix

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  # 2291355 7-Aug-2019 08:19
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If anyone's interested, Camect launched today on Indiegogo and still have some 'Super Early Bird' devices available at US$250 at https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/camect-world-s-smartest-most-private-camera-hub. They also have a lifetime subscription deal at US$250 or US$59 per year although for 2 cameras, it's free. I exchanged several emails with them and one of the advanced features that makes it attractive to me is that, "it has two modes, 'at home' and 'normal operation'. You can switch between them with one click, and you can set it up to disable a set of cameras when you're at home. You can also configure it to automatically be in "at home" mode when your phone is detected on your home network".


 
 
 
 


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  # 2291358 7-Aug-2019 08:22
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benz1:

 

If anyone's interested, Camect launched today on Indiegogo and still have some 'Super Early Bird' devices available at US$250 at https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/camect-world-s-smartest-most-private-camera-hub. They also have a lifetime subscription deal at US$250 or US$59 per year although for 2 cameras, it's free. I exchanged several emails with them and one of the advanced features that makes it attractive to me is that, "it has two modes, 'at home' and 'normal operation'. You can switch between them with one click, and you can set it up to disable a set of cameras when you're at home. You can also configure it to automatically be in "at home" mode when your phone is detected on your home network".

 

 

Just a warning, be very careful when it comes to kickstarter and indiegogo as it's not a "purchase".  Even if you pay by credit card you may not be able to claim back if they don't deliver as most banks start their payment protection at time of payment.  I have had a few projects fail on both platforms and was unable to get refunds or credit card payments reversed.  So far i have lost around $550US on a number of projects that did not deliver at all, longest now is 5 years without a reward after promised delivery date.  Kickstarter and indiegogo will not help you to get funds back at all either. 

 

Now I wait till the product is released before purchasing (after checking up on reviews and comments on kickstarter and indiegogo).  I would rather pay extra and get a product than paying money and never having anything turn up

 

 


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Wannabe Geek


  # 2291365 7-Aug-2019 08:34
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I'm going to give synology survalance station a shot to see how it goes with my already installed cleverloop cameras. Camect looks OK but not to thrilled about 2 camera limit & forced subscription If you want more. Shinobi CCTV also looks interesting, I wonder what sorta hardware requirements it has.I have a pentium D I could use if it will run on that.

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  # 2291663 7-Aug-2019 13:58
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tripp:

Just a warning, be very careful when it comes to kickstarter and indiegogo as it's not a "purchase".  Even if you pay by credit card you may not be able to claim back if they don't deliver as most banks start their payment protection at time of payment.  I have had a few projects fail on both platforms and was unable to get refunds or credit card payments reversed.  So far i have lost around $550US on a number of projects that did not deliver at all, longest now is 5 years without a reward after promised delivery date.  Kickstarter and indiegogo will not help you to get funds back at all either. 

 

 

There's also a second level of risk with these in that you're not buying a product but backing an experiment. Even if it gets funded and delivers, you have no guarantee that the company will still be around in six months' time. This means that ship-a-product-and-you're-done is OK, but anything-as-a-service is a double level of gamble. Cleverloop, the motivation for the thread, is a prime example.

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  # 2291664 7-Aug-2019 14:00
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madhits: I'm going to give synology survalance station a shot to see how it goes with my already installed cleverloop cameras. Camect looks OK but not to thrilled about 2 camera limit & forced subscription If you want more. Shinobi CCTV also looks interesting, I wonder what sorta hardware requirements it has.I have a pentium D I could use if it will run on that.

 

Initial glance at the supported camera list doesn't include CleverLoop.  Are they a different brand for this purpose?  Not currently at home to check and google wasn't very helpful.





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# 2291669 7-Aug-2019 14:15
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geoffwnz:

 

madhits: I'm going to give synology survalance station a shot to see how it goes with my already installed cleverloop cameras. Camect looks OK but not to thrilled about 2 camera limit & forced subscription If you want more. Shinobi CCTV also looks interesting, I wonder what sorta hardware requirements it has.I have a pentium D I could use if it will run on that.

 

Initial glance at the supported camera list doesn't include CleverLoop.  Are they a different brand for this purpose?  Not currently at home to check and google wasn't very helpful.

 

 

CLeverloop cameras are onvif certified and thus they work with a large number of NVR and CCTV systems. So I'm nearly certain they work but I have yet to do it.


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  # 2292756 9-Aug-2019 08:26
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madhits:

 

geoffwnz:

 

madhits: I'm going to give synology survalance station a shot to see how it goes with my already installed cleverloop cameras. Camect looks OK but not to thrilled about 2 camera limit & forced subscription If you want more. Shinobi CCTV also looks interesting, I wonder what sorta hardware requirements it has.I have a pentium D I could use if it will run on that.

 

Initial glance at the supported camera list doesn't include CleverLoop.  Are they a different brand for this purpose?  Not currently at home to check and google wasn't very helpful.

 

 

CLeverloop cameras are onvif certified and thus they work with a large number of NVR and CCTV systems. So I'm nearly certain they work but I have yet to do it.

 

 

A quick play the other night showed that the CleverLoop cameras do get picked up by Synology.  So that's good.  Ran into the 2 camera licensing limit of Surveillance Station though and didn't investigate any further.  Has some potential if I can get a chance to spend some more time with it and look at the set up options.





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