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  #2361378 27-Nov-2019 09:57
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theres a great youtube channel, "LifeHackster" that reviews HEAPS of cctv systems and security systems in home setups along with a lot of comparisons from competing products.. check out his vids before pressing go on Arlo is all I have to say.. 


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Jiriteach:

JayADee:
Aredwood: I might be interested in some of your old cameras.

Only I'm trying to figure out how close the cameras should be to the area to be recorded (especially for night time recording). I'm guessing that is related to the lens size?

Do I just have to try them and see?


ipcamtalk.com has some info on this if I remember right. Charts etc.
Unless you have a lot of ambient light or you don’t mind adding extra IR devices or other lighting, your range for night time is going to be limited by the IR range on the camera. I find mine work fine close to the house in the pitch dark which is where I need it. I'll message you some photos this evening after dark so you can see how my five look.

It's really odd how it's pitch black out to the naked eye then you look at the camera view and it looks like there's a light on (albeit in black and white) because of the IR.

I am also down a long driveway, I'd be curious to know how well your camera does focused further away. I haven’t tried it. All of mine are oriented close to cover windows and doors and keep an eye on the approaches in the background. I have a regular sized one story house with five (!) doors, three of which are double French.

The tripwire and intrusion zones are essential if you want half way decent notifications if you have any vegetation to speak of.

We've had such a run of burglaries in this town it isn’t funny. I have just installed some locking patio bolts on 3 of my doors. We were just at the mower shop yesterday for a service and a guy we know was there replacing his birthday present ride on and chainsaw which had just been burgled. There's no stopping people if they are really determined but I reckon making it harder isn’t a bad defence.

Those wyze cams work great through the window with IR turned off (you do need to rig a way to block reflections). If you locate them near one of the IR cameras, it uses their IR. I want a couple more of those for sheltered positions under the shed roofs.

Edit: PIR would be nice.


The IR on these do ~ 20m. My current ones ~ 50m but not great. I've had Arlo's before which did 7m and Nests which do ~ 7m and they were good. I actually get too much bounce from the white soffits since mine are mounted on soffits so keen to try these new ones out. 


The only cameras that I've tested with PIR's have been the Arlo's and they worked OK - this new Dahua setup with PIR plus IVS will be sweet. Will let you guys know how it runs and am looking to bring a few more in!



@Jiriteach

I was wondering what you thought of the new camera's?



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  #2410728 31-Jan-2020 13:43
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evileric:
Jiriteach:

JayADee:
Aredwood: I might be interested in some of your old cameras.

Only I'm trying to figure out how close the cameras should be to the area to be recorded (especially for night time recording). I'm guessing that is related to the lens size?

Do I just have to try them and see?


ipcamtalk.com has some info on this if I remember right. Charts etc.
Unless you have a lot of ambient light or you don’t mind adding extra IR devices or other lighting, your range for night time is going to be limited by the IR range on the camera. I find mine work fine close to the house in the pitch dark which is where I need it. I'll message you some photos this evening after dark so you can see how my five look.

It's really odd how it's pitch black out to the naked eye then you look at the camera view and it looks like there's a light on (albeit in black and white) because of the IR.

I am also down a long driveway, I'd be curious to know how well your camera does focused further away. I haven’t tried it. All of mine are oriented close to cover windows and doors and keep an eye on the approaches in the background. I have a regular sized one story house with five (!) doors, three of which are double French.

The tripwire and intrusion zones are essential if you want half way decent notifications if you have any vegetation to speak of.

We've had such a run of burglaries in this town it isn’t funny. I have just installed some locking patio bolts on 3 of my doors. We were just at the mower shop yesterday for a service and a guy we know was there replacing his birthday present ride on and chainsaw which had just been burgled. There's no stopping people if they are really determined but I reckon making it harder isn’t a bad defence.

Those wyze cams work great through the window with IR turned off (you do need to rig a way to block reflections). If you locate them near one of the IR cameras, it uses their IR. I want a couple more of those for sheltered positions under the shed roofs.

Edit: PIR would be nice.


The IR on these do ~ 20m. My current ones ~ 50m but not great. I've had Arlo's before which did 7m and Nests which do ~ 7m and they were good. I actually get too much bounce from the white soffits since mine are mounted on soffits so keen to try these new ones out. 


The only cameras that I've tested with PIR's have been the Arlo's and they worked OK - this new Dahua setup with PIR plus IVS will be sweet. Will let you guys know how it runs and am looking to bring a few more in!



@Jiriteach

I was wondering what you thought of the new camera's?




New ones in general or Dahua’s?



evileric
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  #2410909 31-Jan-2020 20:23
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Jiriteach:
evileric:
Jiriteach:

JayADee:
Aredwood: I might be interested in some of your old cameras.

Only I'm trying to figure out how close the cameras should be to the area to be recorded (especially for night time recording). I'm guessing that is related to the lens size?

Do I just have to try them and see?


ipcamtalk.com has some info on this if I remember right. Charts etc.
Unless you have a lot of ambient light or you don’t mind adding extra IR devices or other lighting, your range for night time is going to be limited by the IR range on the camera. I find mine work fine close to the house in the pitch dark which is where I need it. I'll message you some photos this evening after dark so you can see how my five look.

It's really odd how it's pitch black out to the naked eye then you look at the camera view and it looks like there's a light on (albeit in black and white) because of the IR.

I am also down a long driveway, I'd be curious to know how well your camera does focused further away. I haven’t tried it. All of mine are oriented close to cover windows and doors and keep an eye on the approaches in the background. I have a regular sized one story house with five (!) doors, three of which are double French.

The tripwire and intrusion zones are essential if you want half way decent notifications if you have any vegetation to speak of.

We've had such a run of burglaries in this town it isn’t funny. I have just installed some locking patio bolts on 3 of my doors. We were just at the mower shop yesterday for a service and a guy we know was there replacing his birthday present ride on and chainsaw which had just been burgled. There's no stopping people if they are really determined but I reckon making it harder isn’t a bad defence.

Those wyze cams work great through the window with IR turned off (you do need to rig a way to block reflections). If you locate them near one of the IR cameras, it uses their IR. I want a couple more of those for sheltered positions under the shed roofs.

Edit: PIR would be nice.


The IR on these do ~ 20m. My current ones ~ 50m but not great. I've had Arlo's before which did 7m and Nests which do ~ 7m and they were good. I actually get too much bounce from the white soffits since mine are mounted on soffits so keen to try these new ones out. 


The only cameras that I've tested with PIR's have been the Arlo's and they worked OK - this new Dahua setup with PIR plus IVS will be sweet. Will let you guys know how it runs and am looking to bring a few more in!



@Jiriteach

I was wondering what you thought of the new camera's?




New ones in general or Dahua’s?


The new one's you bought compared to the ones they replaced was my original thought, but am also happy to hear your thoughts on Dahua's generally :) - particularly those stocked by Empire Tec.

I was just having a casual look but I think I need to do some more serious "research" and upskilling before I commit to a purchase!

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  #2410911 31-Jan-2020 20:32
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evileric:
Jiriteach:
evileric:

@Jiriteach

I was wondering what you thought of the new camera's?




New ones in general or Dahua’s?


The new one's you bought compared to the ones they replaced was my original thought, but am also happy to hear your thoughts on Dahua's generally :) - particularly those stocked by Empire Tec.

I was just having a casual look but I think I need to do some more serious "research" and upskilling before I commit to a purchase!

 

The new Dahua's I have are pretty good. They have been running without any issues. These have PIR sensors in them and the ability to set zones based on detection thesholds. These also have IVS on them which is Dahua's object detection.

 

For many of these cameras, it really comes down to requirement, how much you want to mess with them and access. 

 

I like these latest Dahua's as I am able to connect them to Dahua's consumer cloud - IMOU and have alerts record directly to the cloud for any PIR detections. You do have to pay a subscription for the storage of these but its not much and works very well. Its effortless and just works. It also provides for remote viewing since feeds are proxied via their cloud. I also have SD's in these for backup recording.

 

I have 6 of them running at one of my houses.

 

We just built another house and for this house, I decided to go with Ring cameras. I have 10 around the property of all combinations of Ring and they are awesome as well. Effortless and just works. Detection is really good as it uses their software to process the images. Also very fast access anywhere.

 

So as mentioned above, really comes down to what you need is and how hands on you want to be and the access to them.


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