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  Reply # 2189605 1-Mar-2019 19:50
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5G / 10G / 20G USB is sufficient.





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Reply # 2189619 1-Mar-2019 20:42
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Sideface:

  • USB 3.2 Gen 1 (previously referred to as USB 3.0, or formally as USB 3.1 Gen 1) has a 5Gbps transfer rate and is officially known by the marketing name SuperSpeed USB.


  • USB 3.2 Gen 2 (previously referred to as USB 3.1, or formally as USB 3.1 Gen 2) has a 10Gbps transfer rate and is now officially known as SuperSpeed USB 10Gbps.


  • USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 (the latest spec) has a 20Gbps transfer rate and is now officially known as SuperSpeed USB 20Gbps.



Industry body says rush out and replace your USB 3.1 gen 1 PC with a USB 3.2 gen 1 PC with bonus USB 3.2 gen 2 ports at the rear.

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 2190486 4-Mar-2019 00:31
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JaseNZ:

I am ready.

 

 

The scopes are a good precaution, but where's the goat and sacrificial knife for when things really get tough?

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  Reply # 2190538 4-Mar-2019 09:28
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gzt: Need a rainbow of colors to indicate that standard on the port.

 

 

 

I'm ok with whatever they do, so long as it's clear and obvious and standard. Colours work fine for me. If I can look up "yellow usb port" and know the speed and compatibility then that's fine.

 

 




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  Reply # 2192102 6-Mar-2019 12:38
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THE SEQUEL:

 

PC World (US online) - The new USB4 spec promises a lot: Thunderbolt 3 support, 40Gbps bandwidth, and less confusion

 

Mark Hachman on 05 March, 2019

 

 

Meet USB4, which promises to simplify the USB naming scheme and integrate the high-bandwidth Thunderbolt 3 specification.

 

Just a week after the upcoming USB 3.2 specification's branding scheme threatened to confuse PC buyers, the next USB spec is trying to resolve it all. ...

 

USB4 will use the USB-C port, and run at 40Gbps - about double the speed of the preceding USB 3.2 specification.

 

You probably won’t see USB4 hardware in the near future, however.

 

The USB 3.2 specification was published in 2017 and is due to show up in products this year.

 

USB4 is just a specification at the moment, and it hasn’t even been published.

 

The publication date is scheduled for sometime in mid-2019, which means we won’t likely see USB4 hardware until 2020 or beyond.

 

What this means to you:

 

From a technical standpoint, USB4 is good news, promising to take the small jumble of USB specifications, form factors, and branding and consolidate them into something more understandable for a general audience.

 

The timing of it all is a bit suspicious, given the backlash about the USB 3.2 branding scheme. ...

 

 

 





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  Reply # 2192180 6-Mar-2019 13:44
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timmmay:

5G / 10G / 20G USB is sufficient.

 

 

Actually I don't even care about the 10G or 20G or 150TB/s, for anything like that I'll use ethernet, not a steroided serial port. What I really want in USB is a single connector and the ability to plug A into B and it'll just work. I'd actually go back to 12Mbps USB just to have the ability to plug things in and have them work without having to faff around with drivers and cables and different settings and adapters and converters and hubs and then half the time it still doesn't work.

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  Reply # 2192189 6-Mar-2019 14:04
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One of the drivers of this constant name changing in my opinion is the frequency of updates. There was a long time between USB 1 and USB 2 and then USB 3. Since then it feels like almost every week there is something new that requires a new standard. Perhaps they should reduce the release frequency and make every new thing a new version. I am dreading the change from USB 4 to USB when they reach the limitations of the connector and need to change it. Then things get bad.

 

I know this has been said before, but realistically, do we NEED faster at this point? I do understand my needs aren't the same as everyone elses, but being able to copy data from a PC to a USB stick at 200MB/s seems plenty fast enough. I am struggling to see practical reasons for needing 40gbps for all but the most demanding connectivity. Most consumers would happily trade speed for less confusing standards. Plug and Play.


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  Reply # 2192259 6-Mar-2019 15:13
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I would be just happy with usb "c" , can't get it wrong with plugging in and more than faster enough for what I need.





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  Reply # 2192262 6-Mar-2019 15:18
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@neb Got to love that you can have a Gen 1/2/3/3.1/3.2 using a Type A, USB 3/3.1/3.2 using Type C. Screw this.






 


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  Reply # 2192276 6-Mar-2019 15:19
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I like the USB C connector.


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  Reply # 2192279 6-Mar-2019 15:26
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networkn:

 

I like the USB C connector.

 

 

Same, The only logical thing they have done. 
It only took 5 or so years watching Apple users enjoy their lightning connectors.

(Funnily enough my iphone will only like my charger in one way otherwise it bleeps all night)

 

 

That is a better chart...

Anyway, i read just before that the below image shows USB 3.1 Gen 1 Type A connectors which are actually USB 3.0 speed standard...

 


The laptop I bought have a USB C connector and it is either 3.0 or 3.1 spec. 
Don't get me started on the Nintendo Switch.... 





 


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Personally, the day they kill all of the connectors apart from Type-C can't come soon enough.

 

Don't care what the call it!

 

The absolute lunacy of the Type-A connector, in particular. It always takes at least three goes to plug the damn thing in!  


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evilengineer:

 

Personally, the day they kill all of the connectors apart from Type-C can't come soon enough.

 

Don't care what the call it!

 

The absolute lunacy of the Type-A connector, in particular. It always takes at least three goes to plug the damn thing in!  

 

 

You should master the art of visual confirmation beforehand 🧐





 


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  Reply # 2192492 6-Mar-2019 19:11
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I just want them to not have insufficient resources on the controllers to be able to use all the ports at once.

 

Apparently the lack of endpoints on intel chipsets is because they all use memory addressing space, and it was kept low so that there wasnt too much used since it all has to be below 1 meg for booting legacy bios mode stuff.

 

OMFG. They cripple the ability to get over about 20 devices on a computer just so that people can boot craptastic old operating systems on the hardware. I thought bios was supposed to be dead by now and it be uefi only for everything? Disappointing future we live in.





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  Reply # 2192757 7-Mar-2019 08:37
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Coil:

 

evilengineer:

 

Personally, the day they kill all of the connectors apart from Type-C can't come soon enough.

 

Don't care what the call it!

 

The absolute lunacy of the Type-A connector, in particular. It always takes at least three goes to plug the damn thing in!  

 

 

You should master the art of visual confirmation beforehand 🧐

 

 

Sooo helpful! 😀

 

I'll try and remember that next time I'm trying to plug something into the back of a desktop PC. 


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