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  #2240800 19-May-2019 14:14
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mattwnz:

I only buy when they have a big discount on them. If I was to build again, I would avoid downlights and go wit pendants. Or use downlights where the bulbs are switchable. Downlights caused this project to be delays by months, because the contractor ended cutting the wrong sized holes, and we had to find alternative lights to fit the larger holes. 


Have already had several of these all in one downlights fail, and they are a PITA because the electrician has to come in to first test them, and then order a new one.



LED down lights give a room that clean less noise look since they conceal so well. All comes down to the quality of LEDs and divers supplied by these downlights. Couple of good NZ companies out there like a Visionary tech and Switch-lighting that are locally made with quality drivers and excellent support.




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  #2240803 19-May-2019 14:30
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There was an guy somewhere on here who was getting some certified....




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  #2240807 19-May-2019 14:42
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hio77: There was an guy somewhere on here who was getting some certified....

 

Any clue?

 

 


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  #2240830 19-May-2019 15:53
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mattwnz:

 

I only buy when they have a big discount on them. If I was to build again, I would avoid downlights and go wit pendants. Or use downlights where the bulbs are switchable. Downlights caused this project to be delays by months, because the contractor ended cutting the wrong sized holes, and we had to find alternative lights to fit the larger holes. 

 

 

 

Have already had several of these all in one downlights fail, and they are a PITA because the electrician has to come in to first test them, and then order a new one.

 



LED down lights give a room that clean less noise look since they conceal so well. All comes down to the quality of LEDs and divers supplied by these downlights.

 

We are using very good quality lights and drivers, but several have still prematurely failed. One failed just a few days ago, and only two days after the electrican installed it. The bulb is still glowing slightly on that one, so not sure if it is the driver or LED. So we are waiting for an electrician to come back and fix it. Anther that failed proved to be a failed driver.

 

I agree to a point about the look of lightlights, and a clean look. But further down the track they can be a problem, especially if the manufacturer stops making a particular type, and then getting them to match. Whereas we have philips downlight fittings that take B22 bulbs in a previous  house, where if a bulb fails you cuts switch out the old B22 light, and it also allow you to install new technology bulbs. First we replaced the incandescent with CFL, then with LEDs, and then with philips hues.  But those older type downlight fittings are bad for heat loss, unless you can find some that are IC rated and can be covered with insulation. . 

 

 


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  #2240850 19-May-2019 16:50
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sdavisnz: I recently purchased a wifi in-wall dimming module with Google and Alexa support.

NZ$ 28.32 31%OFF | Tuya Smart WiFi Dimmer Switch Module Transform Traditional Switch 150W Smart Switch Dimmer Work with Alexa Echo Google Home
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/c7hyzbni

Just remember to swap out the on/off switch for a 'push' switch.

Cheap as chips and won't mess with your faceplate of choice in your new build.

 

These do look good and possibly more available than the Shelly2 (https://shelly.cloud/shelly-25-wifi-smart-relay-roller-shutter-home-automation/) that I have behind a couple of switch plates.

 

I see they have Home Assistant integration too, albeit using their cloud/website, where as the Shelly's can be all self contain via MQTT with no need to "call home".


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