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  #2399165 16-Jan-2020 17:53
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jamesrt:
lchiu7: But if I press it I see a brief flash of another screen A Better Way to Pay by Google and then it disappears.


Yes, I can't do much myself with the app either; the 'disappear' is the app crashing, I think. It may be more stable if the VPN was still up; or if I used the proxy trick from the XDA article, or indeed went to Australia! [Hopefully will be visiting later in the year so will be interesting to compare functionality]

I said it worked, I didn't say it worked well!!

 

OK, I've had some more success after some reading in the XDA thread for the "Permanent Proxy" app.

 

A number of people have reported the same problem - touching the "3 dots" causes the app to crash, etc.  Turns out that the app is partially disabled; and needs to be "fully" enabled for it to work.

 

I turned by ProxyVPN back on (phone), and made sure the watch had WiFi disabled (just to be sure).  Then went into the Play Store on the watch, and  searched for "pay", and then selected Google Pay off the list.  It was marked as "disabled", and gave me the option to enable it, which I did.

 

Left things for a few minutes, and then rebooted the watch again (still on the VPN).

 

Interestingly, after the reboot, the first time I accessed Google Pay, it went through the whole setup process again; but this time when the app finished and the virtual card was visible on the screen, the "3 dots" worked, and I could then add additional cards, examine the card I had, etc, etc.

 

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In the end, I've just removed the card, and disabled my watch PIN again; which is what I was hoping to do.

 

TBH, Pay on Wear is a nice trick, but I'll almost certainly have my phone with me 99% of the time when I'm trying to do a PayWave transaction; and the hoop jumping was getting a bit much.  Plus having a pin on the watch was becoming a real pain in the a**.

 

If NZ ever becomes officially supported I'd think about enabling it again for the geek-factor; but at the end of the day, I'm happy not using it currently.

 

 




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  #2400274 16-Jan-2020 21:37
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jamesrt:

 

Interestingly, after the reboot, the first time I accessed Google Pay, it went through the whole setup process again; but this time when the app finished and the virtual card was visible on the screen, the "3 dots" worked, and I could then add additional cards, examine the card I had, etc, etc.

 

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In the end, I've just removed the card, and disabled my watch PIN again; which is what I was hoping to do.

 

 

I never got that app to work - maybe another setup might work but I can't be bothered now.

 

The PIN (well I used a pattern) didn't bother me since it only kicked in if I take the watch off my wrist.

 

As you note, it's a nice trick but I cannot find a valid use case for it.





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  #2400371 17-Jan-2020 08:19
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lchiu7:

 

jamesrt:

 

Interestingly, after the reboot, the first time I accessed Google Pay, it went through the whole setup process again; but this time when the app finished and the virtual card was visible on the screen, the "3 dots" worked, and I could then add additional cards, examine the card I had, etc, etc.

 

---

 

In the end, I've just removed the card, and disabled my watch PIN again; which is what I was hoping to do.

 

 

I never got that app to work - maybe another setup might work but I can't be bothered now.

 

The PIN (well I used a pattern) didn't bother me since it only kicked in if I take the watch off my wrist.

 

As you note, it's a nice trick but I cannot find a valid use case for it.

 

 

 

 

Noticed that after having the watch on the charger all night the app disappeared. But rebooting the watch while the phone was on Tunnelbear restored it.  Still can't bring up the transaction list by swiping the card icon so the installation isn't quite right. Might play around with it this weekend just for academic curiosity.





Staying in Wellington. Check out my AirBnB in the Wellington CBD.  https://www.airbnb.co.nz/rooms/32019730  Mention GZ to get a 10% discount

 

System One: Popcorn Hour A200,  PS3 SuperSlim, NPVR and Plex Server running on Gigabyte Brix (Windows 10 Pro), Sony BDP-S390 BD player, Pioneer AVR, Raspberry Pi running Kodi and Plex, Panasonic 60" 3D plasma, Google Chromecast

System Two: Popcorn Hour A200 ,  Oppo BDP-80 BluRay Player with hardware mode to be region free, Vivitek HD1080P 1080P DLP projector with 100" screen, Denon AVRS730H 7.2 Channel Dolby Atmos/DTS-X AV Receiver, Samsung 4K player, Google Chromecast, Odroid C2 running Kodi and Plex

 

 


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  #2400373 17-Jan-2020 08:27
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lchiu7: Still can't bring up the transaction list by swiping the card icon so the installation isn't quite right. Might play around with it this weekend just for academic curiosity.

 

One other thing I did when I was fiddling was a force-install of Google Pay via the Play store on a web browser on a PC.  I noticed that on the web-based store, my phone listed it as being installed, but the watch didn't, so I told it to.  It didn't install as far as I could tell, but that may have triggered something in the background - who knows?   (VPN was active at the time).

 

May be something to try yourself...  




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lchiu7: Still can't bring up the transaction list by swiping the card icon so the installation isn't quite right. Might play around with it this weekend just for academic curiosity.

 

One other thing I did when I was fiddling was a force-install of Google Pay via the Play store on a web browser on a PC.  I noticed that on the web-based store, my phone listed it as being installed, but the watch didn't, so I told it to.  It didn't install as far as I could tell, but that may have triggered something in the background - who knows?   (VPN was active at the time).

 

May be something to try yourself...  

 

 

 

 

No on Google Play it shows the app is installed on the watch. I might try an uninstall and re-install while on the VPN

 

 

 

[UPDATE]

 

Note sure what happened but I did the following. I uninstalled the app and then did an install. It's a system app so it said Update. Clicked OK and then waited forever as it was downloading. It never completed so I just restarted the watch (all while on the VPN) and now the app behaves as it should Press the three dots and now I see another screen and if I swipe up I get Add Card, How to Pay. No transactions but I haven't done any since I restarted so will go out for a Big Mac again today :-)

 

 

 

[Update 2]

 

 

 

It's working pretty seamlessly now. Did 4 transactions today and all worked fine. And the transaction shows up on the phone.

 

 

 

Here's a screenshot

 

 

Still not convinced as to the utility of this but nice as a proof of concept

 

 





Staying in Wellington. Check out my AirBnB in the Wellington CBD.  https://www.airbnb.co.nz/rooms/32019730  Mention GZ to get a 10% discount

 

System One: Popcorn Hour A200,  PS3 SuperSlim, NPVR and Plex Server running on Gigabyte Brix (Windows 10 Pro), Sony BDP-S390 BD player, Pioneer AVR, Raspberry Pi running Kodi and Plex, Panasonic 60" 3D plasma, Google Chromecast

System Two: Popcorn Hour A200 ,  Oppo BDP-80 BluRay Player with hardware mode to be region free, Vivitek HD1080P 1080P DLP projector with 100" screen, Denon AVRS730H 7.2 Channel Dolby Atmos/DTS-X AV Receiver, Samsung 4K player, Google Chromecast, Odroid C2 running Kodi and Plex

 

 


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